Thread subject: Diptera.info :: ID, Rhagionidae 2?

Posted by Juergen G on 25-06-2013 22:25
#1

Who can help to identify this?
Location: Germany, North Rhine-Westphalia, Garden in Nettetal
Date: 19.06.2013
Thanks.

Jürgen

Posted by Juergen G on 25-06-2013 22:25
#2

The second image of the same.

Posted by libor on 26-06-2013 08:03
#3

Do you have any shot from top view to study wing patterns better?
Libor

Edited by libor on 26-06-2013 08:05

Posted by Juergen G on 26-06-2013 08:54
#4

Unfortunately, I have no other photos.
Jürgen

Posted by libor on 26-06-2013 09:18
#5

Chrysopilus cf. erythrophthalmus female. Very rare species of mountain forests with streams. But ID is not exact...
Libor

Posted by Sundew on 26-06-2013 22:26
#6

I don't believe in C. erythrophthalmus, as I do not consider the pterostigma "outstanding large and dark" (http://home.hccne...pilus.html). The C. erythrophthalmus female in the gallery (http://72.44.83.9...to_id=2578) looks different. The thorax pattern fits well the description "Female: thoracic dorsum on the front part with a broad grey stripe containing a small black stripe in its middle", that is C. cristatus (syn. C. auratus), a common species.

Posted by libor on 26-06-2013 23:05
#7

Yes, that was my second idea. But I have 4 erythrophthalmus in my collection as well as many cristatus, which has lesser spot on pterostigma. But, as I wrote earlier, without top shot to study the pterostigmal spot, exact ID is not possible.
Libor