Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Ephydridae from Schoonrewoerd
Posted by rvanderweele on 19-05-2013 16:59
#1
Dear friends,
in Malaise trap material from Schoonrewoerd, 19.x.2012, I found this Ephydridae. It looks like a Ochthera mantis-like fly. I think it is another species. Is among us somebody with a lot of experience with this famil?
Posted by mossnisse on 19-05-2013 17:06
#2
I think it's only Ochtera with this bigg hind tibia in Palaerctis.
Looka at Clausen, P. J. (1977). A revision of the Nearctic, Neotropical, and Palearctic Species of the Genus Ochthera, including One Ethiopian Species, and One New Species from India: A Bicentennial Revision (Two Hundred Years of Ochthera). Transactions of the American Entomological Society. 103(3):451-530.
I don't have access to that paper so if you get it i am also interested
Posted by rvanderweele on 19-05-2013 17:19
#3
I have seen some photos of O. mantis, but it looks different, quite different, I think.
I will see whether it is possible to....arrange the article. If I manage to get one I will send you a copy.
Posted by Tony Irwin on 20-05-2013 00:30
#4
This looks like
manicata (on basis of grey dust marks on abdomen - more extensive than in
mantis). I haven't seen
palaearctica, so can't comment on that! Not
schembrii, which is quite different.
Posted by nielsyese on 20-05-2013 07:15
#5
I got that revision of Ochthera in pdf, so I can send it both of you. I was already expecting that O. manicata is present in the Netherlands and was already looking for the species near the border with Belgium, where it was found on the Kalmthoutse Heide, but I didn't find it.
Posted by rvanderweele on 20-05-2013 10:46
#6
Tony, may I send the specimen to you for confirmation of the species? I would like to give it to Naturalis, of course, when it is indeed a new species for the Netherlands.
Posted by Tony Irwin on 20-05-2013 19:47
#7
Yes, of course, Ruud. I'll send you my address.
Tony
Posted by jhstuke on 21-05-2013 11:37
#8
Dear Ruud!
You should better send O. mantis to Tony because that will be the scarer species that has been confused with manicata before. In all regions in Germany O. mantis turned out to be rare if present at all wheras O. manicata is quite common. I have seen O. mantis from the Netherlands collected by M. von Tschirnhaus at the AK-Diptera meeting in the Netherlands.
Jens-Hermann