Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Small Anthomyiidae?
Posted by Pentti Ketola on 04-05-2013 13:44
#1
Hi,
Can anybody help with determination of this fly?
I take the photo on 4 May 2013 Kokkola, Finland.
Regards Pentti.
Edited by Pentti Ketola on 04-05-2013 21:45
Posted by Pentti Ketola on 04-05-2013 13:44
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Posted by Pentti Ketola on 04-05-2013 13:45
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Posted by javanerkelens on 04-05-2013 20:18
#4
Based on the protuding fore head, strong av on midtibia and general appearance, I would say..
Phorbia.
Johanna
Edited by javanerkelens on 04-05-2013 22:04
Posted by Pentti Ketola on 04-05-2013 21:45
#5
Thanks Johanna!
Could it be a male of
Phorbia longipilis?
Pentti
Posted by javanerkelens on 04-05-2013 22:18
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Sorry, I made a mistake about the dichoptic eyes, so I removed it at my previous answer ....(is in
Chirosia)
Phorbia has the normal sexual dimorfisme.
I also looked again on your previous thread; http://www.diptera.info/forum/viewthread.php?thread_id=54323 and I think this also could be
Phorbia (male), and this will be the female .Photographed on the same place?
The legs chaetotaxy is not strong and maybe we have to look in the direction of
Phorbia fumigata / unipila.
But......as you probable guess, we have to look at the genitals.
If possible, maybe collect some species (male specimen) and just send them to me....or try it yourself (with more male specimen, you just can experiment to pull out the genitals and never be afraid to make a mess of it.....practice makes the man...or in my case , woman) ;)
Edited by javanerkelens on 04-05-2013 22:24
Posted by Pentti Ketola on 05-05-2013 07:19
#7
Thanks for the reply.
Pentti.
Posted by Pentti Ketola on 05-05-2013 07:20
#8
Do you think it will be possible to know the species?
Pentti.
Posted by javanerkelens on 05-05-2013 20:23
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Shape of ovipositor seems Phorbia indeed.
This is a female and they are to difficult to ID.... from photos.
Johanna
Posted by Pentti Ketola on 06-05-2013 05:05
#10
OK.Thanks Johanna!
Pentti.