Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Unknow family ...=> Ulidiidae

Posted by pat_der2003 on 01-04-2012 16:22
#1

60 km south Paris, France, April the 1st 2012, 8 mm (?).

a dorsal view :

Edited by pat_der2003 on 02-04-2012 17:56

Posted by pat_der2003 on 01-04-2012 16:24
#2

a lateral view :

Posted by Paul Beuk on 02-04-2012 10:57
#3

Ulidiidae

Posted by Jorge on 02-04-2012 13:02
#4

I agree with Paul, Ulidiidae. Nice specimen ... Ceroxys?

Posted by pat_der2003 on 02-04-2012 17:59
#5

Many thanks to both of you !!!

I understood from a previous thread that this family is under re-built !!

Nowadays, is Ulidiidae equal to Otitidae ? Or is there some spring of confusion in there ?

Thanks again !! ;)

Posted by saeed on 02-04-2012 22:27
#6

Ulidiidae = Otitidae; European scientists use Ulidiidae and American Scientists use Otitidae but I think Ulidiidae is correct according to Kameneva and Korneyev, 2006.

I think it is Dorycera sp.;)

Posted by Paul Beuk on 03-04-2012 11:22
#7

My guess would not be Ceroxys but perhaps Dorycera (though I think the status of that genus compared to Otites is under discussion).

Posted by Stephane Lebrun on 03-04-2012 17:25
#8

I think it is Otites nebulosa.

Posted by pat_der2003 on 03-04-2012 18:07
#9

Well, thanks a lot to all of you !! :)

Stephane, I had a look on the web and found this page !


Could we assume that Dorycera sp and Otites nebulosa are somewhat synonyms ?

Edited by Paul Beuk on 03-04-2012 19:55

Posted by Paul Beuk on 03-04-2012 19:56
#10

I guess it would be better to say that some species of Dorycera resemble some species of Otites closer than they resemble other species of Dorycera, at least in some aspects.

Posted by pat_der2003 on 03-04-2012 23:56
#11

Thank you Paul !:)

So, Paul, Stephane [and all of you !! B)] is it hasardeous to go to Genus level for this particular one ? Or shall I conserve Otites nebulosa as the true Id (in a moving matter) or at least with a cf. ?

Thanks in advance !! ;)