Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Hydrophoria sp.? (Hydrophoria diabata/lancifer(male)
Posted by Mucha Fero on 26-03-2012 08:24
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Anthomyiidae_Hydrophoria sp.(male) is correct? Region Malá Fatra Terchová about 600 m above sea level. Thank you very much for your help. I made a photo of 20.05.2011.
Edited by Mucha Fero on 27-03-2012 06:04
Posted by Mucha Fero on 26-03-2012 08:25
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Posted by Mucha Fero on 26-03-2012 08:25
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Posted by Stephen R on 26-03-2012 11:21
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Hydrophoria diabata/lancifer. (The epandrium seems long and narrow, but I think you would need a specimen to be sure. Opinions?)
Posted by Mucha Fero on 27-03-2012 06:03
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Stephen thank you very much.
Posted by Michael Ackland on 27-03-2012 10:58
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Here is an extract from my key. I will try to post a some figures later
1 Epandrium in profile longer than high, the sides distinctly shining. Surstylus in caudal view narrower in apical half diabata Pand.
– Epandrium shorter, the sides only very slightly shining. Surstylus in caudal view wider in apical half
lancifer Harris
Posted by Michael Ackland on 27-03-2012 11:23
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I don't know if these PDF's will work?
Posted by Michael Ackland on 27-03-2012 11:24
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Obviously not!!
Posted by Stephen R on 27-03-2012 17:51
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Thank you for trying! I don't think Fero has the specimen, so I was speculating idly. I have your Plate 32, and it occurred to me that this one might have had a chance of turning out to be
H. diabata given better evidence. At least the st5 processes look quite beefy! But without the specimen...
Posted by Mucha Fero on 27-03-2012 19:37
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Stephen
What can I do that I possessed specimens. I do not understand the above discussions.
Thank you very much.
Mucha Fero
Posted by Stephen R on 28-03-2012 11:34
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A specimen is the dead body of the fly, which can be examined with a microscope. You need to catch the fly, preserve it in alcohol and send it to an expert.
With only a photograph it is often impossible to know the exact species.
Posted by Mucha Fero on 28-03-2012 12:39
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Hi Stephen
Thank you for the information. I think that to not be too professional. For me it is important stay in the beautiful countryside.
Sincerely, Fero Mucha.
Posted by Stephen R on 28-03-2012 16:22
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Many of us make the same choice :)
Posted by Mucha Fero on 28-03-2012 17:04
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Hi Stephen
Indeed, this is so and that's good.
Mucha Fero
Posted by javanerkelens on 28-03-2012 23:52
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According to the key from Ackland !
HYDROPHORIA
Males
1 Mid femur and hind femur completely yellow................................................................................. linogrisea Mg.
– Mid femur and hind femur mainly dark................................................................................................................. 2
2 Prealar seta at least as long as posterior notopleural seta. Abdomen without dark foremarginal bands. sternite V
with setae on inner margin of processes clustered in apical half or medially........................................................ 3
– Prealar seta shorter than posterior notopleural seta. Abdomen with dark foremarginal bands. sternite V with
setae on inner margin clustered near base............................................................................................................. 4
3 Epandrium in profile longer than high, the sides distinctly shining. Surstylus in caudal view narrower in apical
half................................................................................................................................................... diabata Pand.
– Epandrium shorter, the sides only very slightly shining. Surstylus in caudal view wider in apical half
........................................................................................................................................................ lancifer Harris
4 Abdomen generally with translucent yellowish areas at base. Tibiae more or less yellow, at least in basal half
.............................................................................................................................................................. ruralis Mg.
– Abdomen darker in ground colour. Tibiae dark ................................................................................. silvicola R.D
Edited by javanerkelens on 29-03-2012 00:01
Posted by Mucha Fero on 29-03-2012 06:45
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Hi javanerkelens
Thank you very much for important information for understanding Hydrophoria.
Mucha Fero