Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Asilidae male ?

Posted by Christine Devillers on 14-12-2011 21:20
#1

Hi,

Is it a male of Neoitamus ?
(Belgium,13-07-2009)

Edited by Christine Devillers on 14-12-2011 21:22

Posted by Quaedfliegh on 16-12-2011 13:43
#2

Maybe, do you have more pictures, from the side for instance?

Edited by Quaedfliegh on 16-12-2011 13:45

Posted by Mark van Veen on 16-12-2011 15:41
#3

Given the coloration of the wings, I would say Pamponerus germanicus.

Posted by Christine Devillers on 16-12-2011 16:33
#4

Thanks, unfortunately no other pictures for this one. Does this zoom help to confirm Pamponerus germanicus ?

Edited by Christine Devillers on 16-12-2011 16:38

Posted by Quaedfliegh on 16-12-2011 18:00
#5

To me it seems not hairy enough for Pamponerus and too thin, although not clearly visible, the beard seems to thin too. Last segments of abdomen are black, so it could also be one of the other species of Neoitamus. Picture taken in july that is pretty late for Pamponerus.

Edited by Quaedfliegh on 16-12-2011 18:01

Posted by Christine Devillers on 16-12-2011 21:56
#6

Thanks for those explanations :)

Posted by Quaedfliegh on 16-12-2011 23:27
#7

Please note that i am not sure! Just compared pictures with pamponerus and noticed that their abdomens can be very dark, to black too. Still, i think this to be a Neoitamus sp. But that is more a feeling, based on small things like meta-tarsi, shape of genital segments, over all shape. Mark is referring to the base of the wing, a Pamponerus should have a milky white base in contrast with rest of wing. In this picture i think it is the lightfall.

Edited by Quaedfliegh on 16-12-2011 23:32

Posted by Mark van Veen on 18-12-2011 10:44
#8

I wish I had it in my hand, then things would be easy.

Posted by Christine Devillers on 18-12-2011 13:01
#9

Sorry, but I didn't collect it.
I've also read in your book and in the Stubbs that tarsi are greatly orange in Pampoherus. It seems to be greatly black on mine, so perhaps again a feature for Neoitamus ?
I forgot to tell that I've seen it in a rocky area (no sand there) near Aywaille (Province de Liège)

Edited by Christine Devillers on 18-12-2011 13:08