Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Carpet Moth?

Posted by Larry Shone on 13-10-2011 13:20
#1

I saw this yesterday on the outside of our kitchen window and set my camera up with the flash bracket for some shots.

From in the kitchen, showing the underside:

img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/Dawnrider/Nature/moth02-1.jpg

and from outside-you can see some of the moth's 'tiles' have come off onto the window pane lower left:

img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/Dawnrider/Nature/moth01-2.jpg

Posted by ChrisR on 13-10-2011 13:32
#2

When identifying moths you must start by knowing that colour is much less important than the shape & position of the patterns on the wing. The different shapes and relative intensities of light & dark areas is likely to be stable but the actual colour and brightness of patterns often varies between individuals of the same species.

I'd recommend you get hold of a copy of the concise version of the "Field Guide to Moths of Great Britain & Ireland" by Waring, Townsend & Lewington :)

It's hard to judge the size of the moth in these photos ... I think in Facebook you mentioned that it was about an inch across, which made me think it might be a Common Marbled Carpet but looking harder at the books it looks much more like the smaller Juniper Carpet, which is also a late season moth. So, I am a bit confused - needs an expert to look at it and you might find it easier on a site like iSpot :)

Edited by ChrisR on 13-10-2011 13:32

Posted by Larry Shone on 13-10-2011 14:26
#3

Thanks Chris , I could use that book! I used to have a Collins Gem guide to moths, it was brill but I lost it!

Posted by ChrisR on 13-10-2011 14:33
#4

Any of the Collins Guides will not be comprehensive - so if you are serious about finding the correct name you need to start with books that have all the species in them (like the Waring, Townsend & Lewington book) ;)

Posted by Larry Shone on 13-10-2011 14:50
#5

ChrisR wrote:
Any of the Collins Guides will not be comprehensive - so if you are serious about finding the correct name you need to start with books that have all the species in them (like the Waring, Townsend & Lewington book) ;)

Yea but I've just seen the price of that book!! Way out of my league!! Even on ebay, way too much!

Posted by ChrisR on 13-10-2011 15:26
#6

Amazon has the Concise version (easier to use, ring-bound and with less descriptive text) for £11.60 with free delivery ... not bad for a comprehensive book with paintings of all the UK species :)

Posted by tristram on 13-10-2011 17:54
#7

UKMoths is pretty good: http://ukmoths.or....
So is HantsMoths: http://www.hantsm....

Posted by Tony T on 13-10-2011 19:05
#8

A Juniper Carpet (Thera juniperata)

Posted by Larry Shone on 14-10-2011 01:00
#9

Tony T wrote:
A Juniper Carpet (Thera juniperata)

Thanks, that does look a positive ID to me!