Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Muscidae Phaonia valida? male
Posted by blowave on 17-08-2011 14:47
#1
Hi,
There are no photos of Phaonia valida males in the gallery, but there are 6 females! I have photos from last year of a female, is this the male?
28th June, on my wall near Lincoln UK.
Janet
Posted by blowave on 17-08-2011 14:48
#2
pic 2
Posted by blowave on 17-08-2011 14:49
#3
crop of #2
Posted by blowave on 17-08-2011 14:50
#4
pic 3
Posted by blowave on 27-08-2011 01:36
#5
Bumping this up in case it has been missed.
Posted by Paul Beuk on 29-08-2011 10:48
#6
Yes, it is the male.
Posted by blowave on 29-08-2011 12:32
#7
Paul Beuk wrote:
Yes, it is the male.
Thanks Paul, I'll put a couple in the gallery.
Posted by Stephane Lebrun on 29-08-2011 13:06
#8
Sorry, I tried to reply yesterday but the site crashed down. This is more likely
Phaonia errans, for these reasons : vein M1+2 not slightly bent apically like it should be for
valida, all occipital hairs black (should be partly reddish on lower part in
valida), antennae wholly black (1st flagellomere partly reddish in
valida).
Phaonian valida is also larger than P. errans. Usually, the male of
Phaonia errans fore femora are darkened, this could be misleading.
Posted by blowave on 29-08-2011 17:00
#9
Oh goodness gracious me, I have uploaded photos for the gallery as P. valida! :S
Thank you Stephane, I guess the front femora colour is not as important as the other details?
Posted by blowave on 03-09-2011 12:49
#10
Stephane, if you're sure this is Phaonia errans then I will ask Paul to change the name as it's gone in the gallery. Otherwise I could maybe put a note under the photo, which would you advise to do?
Posted by Stephane Lebrun on 04-09-2011 16:25
#11
I can't be 100 % sure in this case, sorry.
Posted by blowave on 05-09-2011 00:47
#12
Well, it has two things going for P. valida. I think it was quite big, and the front femora are very orange! :D