Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Chrysogaster for ID, C Spain
Posted by Piluca_Alvarez on 07-06-2011 21:52
#1
I thought I was shooting an Ulidia when I took the picture, but once at home I realised the venation doens't match. Can it be a Syrphid? Cheilosia, perhaps? I am puzzled. Thanks in advance for any help.
Taken in the mountains of Madrid on the 21rst may 2011.
Edited by Piluca_Alvarez on 08-06-2011 22:07
Posted by Piluca_Alvarez on 07-06-2011 21:54
#2
A dorsal view.
Posted by Sara21392 on 07-06-2011 22:17
#3
No I think it's not a Syrphidae. :)
Posted by Sundew on 07-06-2011 22:29
#4
Looks like a female of
Chrysogaster (Syrphidae). However, the only species I know,
C. solstitialis, has darkened wings. So we need the help of Syrphid experts.
Posted by Piluca_Alvarez on 08-06-2011 22:06
#5
Thanks a lot to you both for your input! Lets wait for the experts now! :)
Posted by Andre on 14-06-2011 15:41
#6
From how I can see it, it seems to have black antennae. That would make it a
Melanogaster. It probably is
M. hirtella.
Posted by Piluca_Alvarez on 14-06-2011 20:56
#7
OMG! I didn't pay attention to the antennae. Does the female
Melanogaster hirtella have that peculiar wrinkled frons like
Chrysogaster solstitialis? I cannot find any pictures where I can see that feature.
And thanks once more, Andre! Hope you got loads of interesting syrphids in Portugal ;)
Edited by Piluca_Alvarez on 14-06-2011 20:57
Posted by Sundew on 17-06-2011 01:29
#8
There are photos of female
Melanogaster that show a wrinkled frons! Look here:
http://www.flickr...0559346/#/:D. A click on the image brings you to a selection of higher magnifications.
Edited by Sundew on 17-06-2011 01:40
Posted by Andre on 17-06-2011 18:30
#9
Piluca_Alvarez wrote:
OMG! I didn't pay attention to the antennae. Does the female Melanogaster hirtella have that peculiar wrinkled frons like Chrysogaster solstitialis? I cannot find any pictures where I can see that feature.
And thanks once more, Andre! Hope you got loads of interesting syrphids in Portugal ;)
Yes, it was quite interesting indeed, with several new species for the fauna again and some nice additions too.
Posted by Andre on 17-06-2011 18:32
#10
PS: go back and collect some, males and females, please. Kill them in the freezer and send them. It can be quite interesting :)