Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Sarcophagidae-> Sarcophaga dissimilis/S. chaetoneura

Posted by Jan Wind on 19-05-2011 22:16
#1

Seen today 19 may 2011 at border of Salix flood forest in Urtica Rubus fielo in riverine area The Netherlands. Looks like a Rhinophoridae but has R5 open.

Edited by Jan Wind on 19-09-2011 20:01

Posted by Jan Wind on 19-05-2011 22:17
#2

pics 2

Posted by Liekele Sijstermans on 20-05-2011 12:25
#3

This is a Sarcophaga for sure.

Probably Sarcophaga (Discachaeta) pumila. This not an id but it is the most common, small Sarcophaga with black genitalia.

Liekele

Posted by Jan Wind on 20-05-2011 22:14
#4

Liekele thank you for the information. I have seen this species several times this week at different places.
I better change the title,

Kind regards,
Jan Wind

Posted by ChrisR on 13-08-2011 09:31
#5

Sorry to ressurrect this thread but are we sure that this is correct? Because it doesn't look like the ones that I have keyed out from the UK ... and mine all have red genitalia, as described in the key :S

How about something like Sarcophaga (Pierretia) nigriventris?

Edited by ChrisR on 13-08-2011 09:33

Posted by Jan Wind on 13-08-2011 13:37
#6

Thank you Chris for looking at this. I have more pictures if needed. But I have no key and do not know what detail may be needed
Kind regards,
Jan Wind

Posted by ChrisR on 13-08-2011 14:45
#7

Well, Liekele & Thomas are the sarcophagid experts ... but a friend of mine caught pumila recently and he saw this photo and it didn't match his specimen ... or any of mine, so we were a bit worried. :)

Edited by ChrisR on 13-08-2011 14:45

Posted by Liekele Sijstermans on 19-09-2011 09:43
#8

After some discussion with Chris, I must agree this cann't be Sarcophaga pumila nor S. nigriventris.

Because off the shiny appearance it should be Sarcophaga dissimilis or S. chaetoneura.

A definitive identification is however only possible by checking the genitalia.

Liekele

Posted by Jan Wind on 19-09-2011 20:04
#9

Thank you Liekele and Chris to sharpen together this investigation.

Posted by ChrisR on 19-09-2011 21:12
#10

To Liekele goes the credit for the identification - I just noticed that the original name seemed wrong and Liekele worked the rest out :)