Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Chloropidae - Thaumatomyia glabra & notata

Posted by Frank Koehler on 06-10-2006 18:48
#1

Good evening, here are two very small specimen (a little bit to small for my cheap camera). Is it possinble to say more than "Thaumatomyia sp."? There is a 100% chance again, that these is (are) the most common species ;-) Thanks in advance Frank

#1419 Austria / Osttirol: Au?ervillgraten, Winkeltal, 1600m, VII.2006
www.koleopterologie.de/diptera/1419-1415-dip-chloropidae-thaumatomyia-sp-winkeltal-200706.jpg

www.koleopterologie.de/diptera/1419-dip-chloropidae-thaumatomyia-sp-winkeltal-200706.jpg

#6213 Italy / S?dtirol: Spondining, Rail Station, 950 m, VIII.2005
www.koleopterologie.de/diptera/6213-6210-dip-chloropidae-thaumatomyia-sp-spondinig-070805.jpg

www.koleopterologie.de/diptera/6213-dip-chloropidae-thaumatomyia-notata-cf-spondinig-070805.jpg

Edited by Frank Koehler on 19-10-2006 18:25

Posted by Xespok on 06-10-2006 19:15
#2

Nr 1? and 2 looks very much like T. notata, the most common sepcies. The other two images of the second fly belong to different species.

Posted by Kahis on 06-10-2006 21:49
#3

The 2nd species is the oh-so-shiny T. glabra. I'm not convinced the 1st one is notata, the cheek seems too high for that species.

Posted by Xespok on 06-10-2006 22:18
#4

I based on my id mainly on two characteristics of notata: the form of black patch on the head. and the very regular round shape of the third antennal segment. Based on the Chlorpidae booklet of the Hungarian fauna this should be pretty reliable combination for notata.

Kahis, which of the 4 possible T. species (hallandica, rufa, trifasciata, elongatula) of Austria do you have in mind?

Posted by Frank Koehler on 07-10-2006 15:57
#5

Thank you very much, Gabor & Kahis, for your fast replies and suggestions. It?s nice to get names for this small flies to post them in the gallery here. T. glabra should be the first wildlife photo in the www. Best regards Frank