Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Tachinidae 6
Posted by hedy2411 on 28-02-2011 18:31
#1
I've put it before I think, yet no reaction.
Can this fly be ID'd from this position...?
Picture is made 9-9-2010 in Zeist, Holland
Posted by ChrisR on 28-02-2011 18:35
#2
Hmm, difficult - do you have other angles? It looks like either
Dinera or
Dexia.
Posted by Zeegers on 28-02-2011 20:10
#3
Difficult to call.
It has 3 post DC, so it can't be Dinera (we don't have carinifrons).
I'm thinking Estheria. On the other hand, are we very sure indeed it is not some Calliphoridae ?
Theo
Posted by Jaakko on 02-03-2011 15:27
#4
Zeegers wrote:
It has 3 post DC, so it can't be Dinera (we don't have carinifrons).
You donīt have
carinifrons in the NL?? I have one male from Rurstausee (Nordrhein-Westfalen, Germany), some 30 km SE from Maastricht... We even have the species in Finland.
Edited by Jaakko on 03-03-2011 16:00
Posted by Jaakko on 02-03-2011 15:29
#5
Having said that, this is not
carinifrons...
Angiorhina??
Posted by Zeegers on 02-03-2011 18:40
#6
Hi Jaakko
Big help !
Angiorhina, I remind you, this is Central Europe, not Finland.
Yes, we don't have carinifrons, except for 1 very old speicmen. Carinifrons is typical in the middle mountains, and we don't have mountains.
YOur find in the Eiffel, given 'Stausee', so that is really different from Limburg, no matter how close.
Still interesting find !
Theo
Posted by hedy2411 on 03-03-2011 00:00
#7
....so, dear specialists :), what can I make of this fly...? B)
Posted by Jaakko on 03-03-2011 15:59
#8
Oops. I meant of course
Angioneura (Calliphoridae). I have never seen
Angiorhina (Tachinidae)...
D. carinifrons is rather common here in Friedberg (Hessen) surroundings. Not too mountaneous either...
Posted by Zeegers on 03-03-2011 18:02
#9
OK, Angioneura. It seems too big for Angioneura.
As far as I'm concerned, I cannot 100 % exclude Bellardia.
If somebody else can...
What is your altitude asl. at Friedberg ?
Mine is + 18 m. and that is considered 'higher' in The Netherlands
Theo
Posted by nielsyese on 03-03-2011 18:33
#10
Zeegers wrote:
What is your altitude asl. at Friedberg ?
Mine is + 18 m. and that is considered 'higher' in The Netherlands
Yes, I live at -4 m:)
Posted by Jaakko on 04-03-2011 13:15
#11
Quite gray to be
Bellardia to me. Then rather a
Pollenia female?
I checked my navi: The
D. carinifrons specimens (12 exx) are collected between 300 and 350 masl. It is still deciduous woods dominated. Might be that "mountains" are something different for me by definition.
Posted by Zeegers on 04-03-2011 13:41
#12
Our highest point is + 300 meters, the next highest + 200m.
As for Pollenia, it looks pretty like Pollenia indeed, but the wavy hairs seem genuinely lacking (?)
Theo
Posted by Jaakko on 04-03-2011 17:37
#13
I needed to have a reality check. +300 is pretty high for Finnish standards as well. This picture (which I thought is pretty montane) is from +200 masl. Our highest point is only 1324 m... so nothing compared to the Alps!
Edited by Jaakko on 04-03-2011 17:39
Posted by neprisikiski on 04-03-2011 18:26
#14
I have collected a few
D. carinifrons specimens from only 90 masl, but we have raised bogs almost everywhere, so our nature in this altitude resembles the nature of ~500 masl in the Central Europe.
Edited by neprisikiski on 04-03-2011 18:41