Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Melanosoma bicolor

Posted by Ewald Hillinger on 24-02-2011 12:56
#1

Hi,

is this Myopa occulta?
found in eastern Austria in june
dry grass

Regrads

Ewald

Edited by Ewald Hillinger on 27-02-2011 20:29

Posted by rvanderweele on 26-02-2011 12:41
#2

yes, M. occulta

Posted by Mark van Veen on 26-02-2011 14:04
#3

Female Melanosoma bicolor in my opinion.

Posted by rvanderweele on 26-02-2011 14:14
#4

really??!!! To be honest, Mark, I did not see the "bristles" on femur III. I considered it impossible to be morio. But now you say Melanosoma...I see the small antenna.
Good fun! Do you remember that in Amsterdam that I never saw this genus! It is my dream to collect it.
Collected in Austria. But it means it should occur in Hungary as well. As far as I remember it was not recorded from Hungary...but I will check.

It belongs in the gallery!

Posted by Mark van Veen on 26-02-2011 14:38
#5

The length of the proboscis caused me to deviate from M. occulta. That species has a very short proboscis: Gallery picture of M. occulta. The coloration of the wings is striking, and the abdomen is not dorsoventrally flattenend as in Myopa. With this head, only Myopotta and Melanosoma remain. Just after we met, I had the luck to work through the Conopidae in Amsterdam, which made it easier to visualize the alternatives. Mark.

Edited by Mark van Veen on 26-02-2011 14:38

Posted by rvanderweele on 26-02-2011 15:01
#6

Well, Mark, when you mentioned Melanosoma...I saw it also at once. True, the proboscis is typical....imagine I have a portrait on occulta, made by Jorge, in my office!

Posted by jorgemotalmeida on 26-02-2011 15:27
#7

well, besides the features that Mark pointed out, the yellow head and the very strong wrinkles had deviated me from Myopa occulta.. but I was not sure what it could be. Now this is the first time I see a Melanosoma! One strong candidate to go for the gallery! :)
May it will be possible to collect this one? :)

Edited by jorgemotalmeida on 26-02-2011 15:29

Posted by rvanderweele on 26-02-2011 15:30
#8

100% right. When looking at first I thought: okay Myopa: or morio or occulta. This proves again it is not wise to react immediately and rather think a bit more carefully. BTW, as I said I have never seen it before not even on a photo...so my day is good!

Posted by Ewald Hillinger on 27-02-2011 20:28
#9

So that's Melanosoma bicolor ... :)

many thanks

Greetings from Austria

Edited by Ewald Hillinger on 27-02-2011 20:28

Posted by Paul Beuk on 27-02-2011 21:01
#10

Submit for the Gallery, please.

Posted by Ewald Hillinger on 28-02-2011 09:06
#11

Paul Beuk wrote:
Submit for the Gallery, please.



done :)