Thread subject: Diptera.info :: After the confusion 2
Posted by lynkos on 02-10-2006 18:46
#1
Number 2, about 4 mm long, photographed in semi-woodland near Rome, Italy.
Thanks, Sarah.
Posted by lynkos on 07-10-2006 12:06
#2
Not even the slightest, merest, vaguest idea about this :(? Sarah.
Posted by Xespok on 07-10-2006 12:49
#3
I think it is a Coenosia sp, Muscidae, but consider this opinion to be as close to a guess as it is possible.
Edited by Xespok on 07-10-2006 12:50
Posted by pierred on 07-10-2006 21:14
#4
Hello,
You titled your post "after the confusion". May I suggest to change after to within... :)
Posted by lynkos on 08-10-2006 13:46
#5
I thought it looked a bit like a Coenosia too, but it's as much of a guess as yours :(. Think I'll take Pierre's advice and change the title! Sarah.
Posted by lynkos on 17-10-2006 07:09
#6
I don't really think this will help clear up the confusion, but I'll try anyway. It's just about the commonest fly in certain areas and it's so frustrating not knowing what it is :@!
Edited by lynkos on 17-10-2006 07:10
Posted by Tony Irwin on 17-10-2006 09:41
#7
Second photo - the three equidistant sternopleural bristles and general jizz mean that this is Coenosiinae (Muscidae). It's a large subfamily with many similar species, so unless the species is distinctive, or the photo shows all the right features, it's tricky to take it further.
Posted by lynkos on 18-10-2006 07:43
#8
Tony, that's quite far enough for me to take it out of the "unknown" folder! Thanks, Sarah.
Posted by Robert Nash on 18-10-2006 12:45
#9
Pic 2
Coenosia cf.
mollicula a female. The male abdomen has more orange.This is one of the commonest
Coenosia and the insect conforms with our (Ulster Museum) reliably named (Adrian Pont:p) specimens. However without a specimen it is impossible to be sure. Perhaps 90%.
Even chaetotaxy is variable in these flies (theoretically in all flies).We once had a specimen of
Coenosia means which keyed to the wrong subfamily due to aberrant bristles.
Slainte (Cheers) Robert
Posted by lynkos on 18-10-2006 20:42
#10
Great Robert, thanks, Sarah.