Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Psychodidae
Posted by Stephen on 27-09-2006 22:31
#1
For twenty years I have been seeing these flies regularly appear for a few days at my workplace (a small college) and then disappear again. They are most common in the bathroom, but sometimes are in the hallway too. I suspect they have a completely-indoors life cycle in this location.
Only when I looked in my lens today did I realize they are Moth flies. Any hope of narrowing the ID further?
Photographed today, West Virginia USA. Length, 4.6 mm, from front of eyes to the rear of a wing.
Posted by Tony Irwin on 27-09-2006 22:45
#2
The common "drain fly" in Europe is
Psychoda alternata, which I believe also occurs in much of the USA. I think this is probably what you have photographed
Posted by Stephen on 27-09-2006 23:48
#3
Thanks, Tony. I couldn't find any good on-line images of the species, but I did find a website that said the species could be found just about anywhere in the United States (as well as in other areas of the world).
Amazing to think the larva can make their homes in wash basin drains. I suppose they either cling to the sides or risk being washed away. Maybe some are washed away, since apparently they are also found at sewage plants?
They've always seemed like clean, pleasant flies to me. I'm glad I know what they are now.
Thanks, Tony.
Posted by Tony Irwin on 28-09-2006 00:23
#4
The overflow section of the basin is often where they're found - sufficient nutrients are splashed up into that section to provide a good growth of bacteria and fungi on which the larvae feed, and there's less risk of being washed away, or scalded by hot water. As you say, they are an important element of the sewage plant fauna. I suspect they may play a role in the processing of the sewage in the filter beds, but they are generally disliked because they are a nusiance, and have been implicated in brochial asthma among sewage workers, as well as being a potential carrier of pathogenic organisms. :( Pity - they're such cuddly-looking flies!
Posted by Stephen on 28-09-2006 00:47
#5
One more question here, and that is about length. I see some on-line sources say Psychoda alternata is about 2 mm in length.
Not sure what the standard way to measure flies is? If I go from the front of the head to the rear of the abdomen on my fly, I get 3.3 mm. If I go from the front of the head to the rear of the left wing (this is somewhat diagonal) I get 4.6 mm. Of couse all this includes the "fur"!
Posted by pierred on 28-09-2006 07:24
#6
Stephen,
A wonderful pic!!
This is the first time I see such a sharp picture of this fly.
Posted by Robert Nash on 28-09-2006 18:16
#7
Public Health Significance See http://www.entomology.ucr.edu/ebeling/ebel9-4.html
The whole of Walter Ebelings seminal and still exceptionally useful work is on the web :p:p from Riverside, Ca. http://www.entomology.ucr.edu/ebeling/It is a must read for those interested in all called upon to answer pest problems.
Robert Wonderful photo which should find its way into public health text books
Posted by Xespok on 28-09-2006 19:22
#8
In my humble opinion this is NOT Psychoda alternata. Psychoda should keep its winged in a roof like fashion not in one plain. It also should be smaller.
I think this is
Clogmia albipunctata, which is the commonest drainfly. I think Psychoda alternata should really look like
this. It is possible that this latter image indeed shows P. alternata, but there are many P. species, that are very similar to each other.
Posted by Xespok on 28-09-2006 19:29
#9
Also on the
Psychodidae pages of my Carpathian Basin Wildlife Gallery have images of Psychoda and Clogmia. For example 44788 should be a Psychoda, and the majority of the images should be C. albipunctata.
In addition there are three of so species that are not considered as pests, like 40261 and 45568, which occured in natural wetlands. 39809 is probably also a wild Psychoda sp, the others are pests.
Posted by Tony Irwin on 29-09-2006 00:57
#10
I should be more humble than Xespok, because he is correct, and I was wrong to suggest it was
Psychoda:(.
Clogmia albipunctatus is not a British species, but that is no excuse - best that I leave Nematocera identifications at family level!
Posted by Xespok on 29-09-2006 09:22
#11
I should check this issue. Unfortunately the identification of Psychodidae at the species level is very difficult and requires a rather special set of knowledge not usable in even other Nematoceran groups.
C. albipunctata used to be Psychoda albipunctata till the 1930s, so this still creates some confuion.
I am a little bit puzzled, because the distribution data suggests that C. albipunctata does not have a world-wide distribution, which it really shoud have if it is one of the common drain flies. This means that either the distribution data is wrong, or more likely the moth flies that I see around drains in various parts of the world belong to closely related Clogmia species. So it is best to leave this as possible Clogmia species.
Posted by Stephen on 29-09-2006 11:40
#12
I have enjoyed this discussion very much and have learned a lot by reading it. One more piece of data is that, following up on what Xespok said about distribution, I checked at nearctica.com and found that the genus Clogmia is missing from North America.
This weekend I want to go through my Psychodidae photos and see if I have other intesting ones to post. Outdoors I have photographed them twice, once attracted to lights, and once in early Spring on moss in the forest.
Thanks to all who have commented here!
Posted by Xespok on 29-09-2006 14:29
#13
I checked out the Psychodidae images at
Bugguide.net. Most images there, except nr. 1 and 3. are likely to show the common drain fly species, the same as your image shows.
This US site lists the three pest species. Two of them are withing Psychoda, and one is Telmatoscopus albipunctatus, which seems to be a synonym for Clogmia albipunctata, the latter being the valid species name based on faunaeur.org. This means that this species is present in the US.
Posted by Stephen on 29-09-2006 19:10
#14
Ah, a case of synonomy! A lot of these species with a human relationship have worldwide distribution now, don't they. Thanks for the additional info, Xespok.
Posted by lynkos on 06-10-2006 20:42
#15
Here's a profile taken today...
Sarah