Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Heleomyzidae
Posted by Ben Hamers on 30-12-2010 20:50
#1
December 2010, Southern Limburg, NL
First thought was Eccoptomera, but arista seems a bit short.
A rather big fly, the size of an average
S. stercoraria (male).
Ben
Posted by Ben Hamers on 30-12-2010 20:51
#2
Same fly, other view
Posted by Ben Hamers on 30-12-2010 20:51
#3
Third view
Posted by rvanderweele on 30-12-2010 21:27
#4
For me (I chose my words carefully) it appears a Schroederella iners, but I won't be surprised when Andrzej is correcting me (again). I'd would like to see the prosternum
Posted by Ben Hamers on 30-12-2010 21:43
#5
Prosternum for Ruud
Posted by rvanderweele on 30-12-2010 21:46
#6
that is the Propleural bristle. No, I mean the prosternum, which may be found between the first pair of coxae, so in anterior, not lateral
Posted by rvanderweele on 30-12-2010 21:48
#7
But, Ben, please wait for Andrzej. When he sees the animal, we will know for sure what species. Because if he doesn't know, nobody knows.
Posted by jorgemotalmeida on 30-12-2010 22:01
#8
prosternum
http://www.dipter...p;sortby=P
seen as the fly was in front of us, and near the first pair of coxae, between them.
From: Geller-Grimm.
Habitus (partial) for Asilidae, but shows clearly the relative position of the prosternum.
Edited by jorgemotalmeida on 30-12-2010 22:42
Posted by rvanderweele on 30-12-2010 22:04
#9
very thoughtful of you, Jorge!
Posted by Ben Hamers on 30-12-2010 22:16
#10
Thanks Jorge and sorry Ruud for my ignorance.
I should have digged myself into the snow to make such a picture, or the fly should have jumped in the air, which she did actually, but that went to fast to make a decent picture.
Ben
Posted by rvanderweele on 30-12-2010 22:22
#11
Come on, don't bother. I like to help. This makes diptera.info so much fun. I am sure Jorge thinks just the same. If I have to worry about all the mistakes I made, OMG, I think it is better not to visit the site again. ;)
cheers,
Ruud
Posted by Andrzej on 31-12-2010 03:10
#12
Big fly and well bristled ! Ruud ID is correct ! No doubt.
S. iners
Posted by rvanderweele on 31-12-2010 09:58
#13
Gott sei dank
Posted by rvanderweele on 31-12-2010 10:26
#14
BTW, Ben, Schroederella iners has not been often recorded from the Netherlands. So the fact that you were able to make a photo in our country of this beautiful insect is worth a compliment!
Posted by Ben Hamers on 31-12-2010 11:05
#15
Thanks a lot to Andrzej, Ruud and Jorge.
Ruud,
It seemed not to be rare on the Kunderberg, I saw several of them.
Ben
Posted by rvanderweele on 31-12-2010 15:11
#16
once, in Hungary, I collected 3 on the same spot. I considered it very special.