Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Brazilian fly romance..(phasiine tachinids)

Posted by bonitin on 29-12-2010 22:27
#1

Hi,

I wonder if anyone has a clue of the id. of this sympathetic small fly couple in a dark part of the rainforest close by the river in a rainforest of Paraty-Brazil in January of this year..
My pics are not the best but maybe a family is possible?
Thank you!
Myriam

Edited by bonitin on 30-12-2010 18:00

Posted by bonitin on 29-12-2010 22:28
#2

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Posted by rvanderweele on 29-12-2010 22:36
#3

Syrphidae, so not a bad idea to put them in the Syrphidae forum

Posted by ChrisR on 29-12-2010 22:57
#4

Hmm, are we sure that they're not phasiine tachinids?

Posted by rvanderweele on 29-12-2010 23:01
#5

the heads are then remarkably syrphid like

Posted by Stephane Lebrun on 29-12-2010 23:06
#6

The huge calypters are visible on picture 1. Tachinidae, Phasiinae they are.

Posted by rvanderweele on 29-12-2010 23:10
#7

It is great. I can see them, Stephane. You are right. I looked at the eyes on the 2nd photo and would swear that they are Scaeva-like. Proof again that as a non specialist you have to keep your mouth shut ;)

Posted by rvanderweele on 29-12-2010 23:11
#8

I am returning to the "easy" heleomyzidae.

Guys, it is good to have contact with you all!

Posted by bonitin on 30-12-2010 00:00
#9

Thank you all for your help! Very much appreciated!
So Tachinidae, Phasiinae it will be!
Myriam:)

Posted by ChrisR on 30-12-2010 00:15
#10

Yes, they look like typical neotropical phasiines - potentially Trichopodini, even though I can't actually see leaf-like bracts on the hind legs. The dusting on the thorax is very typical on that group and the general shape and colour reminds me of a few species that I saw in the BMNH this year :)

EDIT: if you look at this tray of Homogenia sp. you can see similarities.
chrisraper.org.uk/blog/wp-content/uploads/Homogenia-nigripennis-NHM-20100120-083.jpg

Edited by ChrisR on 30-12-2010 00:20

Posted by bonitin on 30-12-2010 11:51
#11

Thanks a lot Chris! They certainly look very similar!
I found another pic. of the same couple..

Posted by bonitin on 30-12-2010 12:03
#12

I think this one is better..

Posted by ChrisR on 30-12-2010 12:36
#13

Yes, they look very like Homogenia sp. to me ... though the status of neotropical phasiine taxonomy (like most tachinids) is very chaotic and needs complete revision to work out which genera and species are valid and which are synonyms.

Posted by bonitin on 30-12-2010 13:01
#14

Thanks Chris!:)