Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Phaonia resembling rufiventris

Posted by philporter on 12-12-2010 17:04
#1

This resembles rufiventris quite well, but has exnsive dark base to scutellum, more yellow shading in wings and infuscated cross-vein, 2 prs pre-sutural acrostichals, 3 posterior bristles on mid-tibia, which adds up to P. bitincta but that would be a great rarity in Britain I think. Any other options?

Edited by philporter on 12-12-2010 17:12

Posted by philporter on 12-12-2010 17:05
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Posted by philporter on 12-12-2010 17:06
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Posted by philporter on 12-12-2010 17:06
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#middle tibia

Edited by philporter on 12-12-2010 17:07

Posted by Stephen R on 12-12-2010 17:19
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If the arista is short-haired, P. subventa.

Posted by philporter on 12-12-2010 17:51
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Hi, Stephen, thanks for your reply

Unfortunately the antennae are missing on this specimen; apart from that it would be OK except that there are 3 not 2 posterior bristles on the middle tibia, which is a main distinguishing feature of bitincta in Fonseca.

I have two similar females which have short-haired arista and 2 tibial bristles which I intend to post up if I can't nail them any other way; they are very distinctive with orange abdomen but with grey dust bands on the apical margins of tergite 3. Do they ring a bell at all?

Posted by Stephane Lebrun on 12-12-2010 17:59
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Sometimes, even if rare, P. subventa has 3 p. setae on t2. I see that the 2 presutural black stripes are rather broad, what that would support Stephen's opinion.

Posted by philporter on 12-12-2010 20:03
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Thanks for this interesting conclusion, Stephen and Stephane. Another little gem to add to my new collection of priceless tips for identification in the future....
Best wishes
Phil Porter

Posted by Stephen R on 12-12-2010 22:31
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Here is another example: http://www.dipter...d_id=34575.

Posted by philporter on 13-12-2010 12:45
#10

Thanks Stephen, I see that this fly also has 3 posterior bristles on mid-tibia, so the character seems quite unreliable.
Regards
Phil Porter

Posted by Stephen R on 13-12-2010 16:14
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Yes, it seems you need the longer-haired arista as well to identify bitincta.