Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Sarcophaga cf. carnaria ?
Posted by jorgemotalmeida on 16-09-2006 21:35
#1
Hi flyforum
taken on 15th September 2006 in Silgueiros - Viseu PORTUGAL.
Posted by jorgemotalmeida on 16-09-2006 21:42
#2
face of this Sarcophaga...
Posted by jorgemotalmeida on 16-09-2006 21:46
#3
posterior view of Sarcophaga..
Posted by Xespok on 17-09-2006 14:54
#4
No! Red genitals point away from Sarcophaga (Sarcophaga) carnaria (which probably does not occur in Portugal), and most data should possibly be verified. This fly probably does belong to another genus.
Posted by jorgemotalmeida on 17-09-2006 22:37
#5
Xespok wrote:
No! Red genitals point away from Sarcophaga (Sarcophaga) carnaria (which probably does not occur in Portugal), and most data should possibly be verified. This fly probably does belong to another genus.
I thought that there would be a S. carnaria here..
So, if not Sarcophaga, which are the other possiblities? But Sarcophagidae b y sure.... very red eyes... and markings in torax.
Posted by Xespok on 17-09-2006 23:10
#6
Sarcophagidae for sure. Also subfamily Sarcophaginae. But I can not help you further. I also have a few images with red genitals, which await an expert to be determined. Actually these flies do look very different from Sarcophaga (Parasarcphaga sp).
S. carnaria is possibly a more Northern species, and it is replaed by other species (separable by genital morphology) in more Southern locations. The Hungarian S. carnaria specimens were reexamined, and it turned out that maybe 5/10 of the thousands of specimens belonged to S. carnaria, the others were closely related S. species.
Posted by Tony Irwin on 17-09-2006 23:21
#7
The red genitalia and extensive white hairs on the genae suggest that this is
Sarcophaga (
Bercaea)
africa, male. Some workers feel that many of the
Sarcophaga subgenera should be given generic status, but the British Diptera Checklist and Fauna Europaea both consider subgeneric staus is appropriate.