Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Dolichopodidae muppet face>Syntormon denticulatum
Posted by blowave on 14-10-2010 03:10
#1
Hello! :D
Orange flies have to wait, this is too funny!
13th October, on a leaf overhanging water near the Ivy! Approx. 5.5mm. My garden near Lincoln UK.
3 pics
Janet :)
Edited by blowave on 21-10-2010 12:42
Posted by blowave on 14-10-2010 03:11
#2
pic 2
Posted by blowave on 14-10-2010 03:11
#3
pic 3
Posted by Paul Beuk on 14-10-2010 10:12
#4
Syntormon?
Posted by blowave on 14-10-2010 15:39
#5
Syntormon was the genus I had thought too Paul, there's not one in the gallery which matches mine though.
S. pallipes female comes close but it doesn't appear to have the muppet face. ;) Besides that there is
bicolorellum and
pumilus
Here's a list of the species we have.. 16 species!
http://www.dipter...hp?id=9457
Posted by blowave on 14-10-2010 22:26
#6
I have looked at a key for
Syntormon an come up with
Syntormon denticulatum.
http://www.fortun...tormon.htm
3.– Females; face broad; clypeus convex ... 15
20. – Fore coxa with white hairs, sometimes with 1-2 black setae at apex; frons brownish pollinose; fore tibia with anterodorsal serration; mid coxa without strong setae ... denticulatus(Zetterstedt)
23. Frons mat, bronze-green ... denticulatus (Zetterstedt)
Have I done this correctly?
Posted by blowave on 14-10-2010 22:27
#7
Fore tibia..
Posted by Marc Pollet on 15-10-2010 00:04
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Sir,
Syntormon denticulatum would be my best guess too, on the basis of the bare face and the dark legs. Perhaps you could only check if S. zelleri shows very different features, although this species is much rarer than S. denticulatum and occurs in more oligotrophic habitats and at primarily at high altitudes.
Cheers,
Marc
Marc Pollet
Posted by Marc Pollet on 15-10-2010 00:05
#9
Sir,
Syntormon denticulatum would be my best guess too, on the basis of the bare face and the dark legs. Perhaps you could only check if S. zelleri shows very different features, although this species is much rarer than S. denticulatum and occurs in more oligotrophic habitats and at primarily at high altitudes.
Cheers,
Marc
Marc Pollet
Posted by Roger Thomason on 15-10-2010 00:20
#10
Marc Pollet wrote:
Sir,
Syntormon denticulatum would be my best guess too, on the basis of the bare face and the dark legs. Perhaps you could only check if S. zelleri shows very different features, although this species is much rarer than S. denticulatum and occurs in more oligotrophic habitats and at primarily at high altitudes.
Cheers,
Marc
Marc Pollet
Didn't know the sex change had been completed Janet...what do we call you now...Blow what?
Posted by blowave on 15-10-2010 01:39
#11
Thank you Marc.
I found a photo of only a male S. zelleri on the same site, although I have some more keys in a pdf which I will take a look at as the key above doesn't look to have S. zelleri included.
http://dolicho.na...lleri.html
Roger, I know what you would be calling me! :P
Posted by blowave on 15-10-2010 03:46
#12
Marc, I have checked the key on the pdf. All seems to fit
Syntormon denticulatum.
15. Mid tibia with 3 anterodorsal, 1-2 posterodorsal and 1 ventral setae; antennal
stylus 1.5 times longer than postpedicel (along dorsal margin); m-cu
shorter than distal part of CuA1; lower calyper with white cilia; 2.5-4.0 .......
..............................................................................denticulatus (Zetterstedt)
http://www.dipter...Europe.pdf
Again, S. zelleri is not listed.
Can I say for certain this is
Syntormon denticulatum.? It would be a good addition to the gallery!
Mid tibia..
Posted by Igor Grichanov on 25-10-2010 10:56
#14
Syntormon denticulatus (Zetterstedt, 1843) (-us; F -um) [Rhaphium] (Loew, 1857: Progr.Realsch.Meseritz 1857: 34-35)
Syntormon bicolorellus (Zetterstedt, 1843)
Syntormon pumilus (Meigen, 1824)
etc.
The author of the genus (Loew) used Syntormon denticulatUS (Zetterstedt, 1843) for Rhaphium denticulatUM Zetterstedt, 1843.
Therefore, masculine gender must be applied to all Syntormon species.
Posted by blowave on 25-10-2010 17:59
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Thank you Igor, I'll wait to see if Paul sees this. If not I will contact him to make the change from
denticulatum to
denticulatus.