Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Sarcophagid Ravinia pernix? > Sarcophaga cf. caerulescens

Posted by blowave on 08-10-2010 15:58
#1

Hi,

A big one, around 12mm I think.

2nd October on Ivy, my garden near Lincoln UK.

3 pics + 1 crop

Janet :)

Edited by blowave on 27-12-2010 20:45

Posted by blowave on 08-10-2010 15:59
#2

pic 2

Posted by blowave on 08-10-2010 15:59
#3

pic 3

Posted by blowave on 08-10-2010 15:59
#4

crop

Posted by ChrisR on 08-10-2010 17:24
#5

Looks like a female sarcophagid to me :) The eyes look too red and bare to be a Linnaemya :)

Posted by blowave on 08-10-2010 19:03
#6

Thansk Chris, it was a little confusing because of that bristly face.

Could this be Brachicoma devia? I can't see the long arista on mine, but it does have strong facial bristles!

http://diptera.in...ost_142485

I'll change the title.

Posted by ChrisR on 08-10-2010 22:24
#7

Could be :) But best to wait for someone who really knows their sarcos ;)

Posted by Zeegers on 09-10-2010 09:42
#8

Doesn't 'feel' like Brachycoma (which has a very distinct yet hard to describe colouration of the abdomen). Moreover, the arista 'seems' to be plumose.

I'm thinking female Ravinia striata ?


Theo

Posted by blowave on 09-10-2010 14:27
#9

Thanks for the suggestion Theo, you could well be right! Ravinia striata, or Ravinia pernix as it now seems to be named, is the only Ravinia species we have, or maybe anyone has?

The arista certainly are not bold on that species, I would think they are plumose on mine. I found some very good photos of it, showing the face and the bristles look to match up. It also has the frill of pale hairs/bristles behind the head.

http://www.fugleo...p;ID=13793

Posted by Zeegers on 09-10-2010 14:59
#10

Yes, striata and pernix keep changing names, I lost track....


Theo

Posted by Thomas Pape on 27-12-2010 20:33
#11

I am not sure this is Ravinia pernix, and I am basing this partly on the colour, which is too bluish-black as compared to the more greyish colour of R. pernix, and partly on the rows of frontal bristles, which I interpret as diverging abruptly anteriorly [difficult to see, though]. I would think this is a female Sarcophaga sp., and if very hardly pressed for a species name I would put my bets on Sarcophaga caerulescens, which is the species of British Sarcophagas, that in general is most dark and has that bluish 'whif' that also has given rise to its name.

Posted by blowave on 27-12-2010 20:47
#12

Thank you Thomas! :)