Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Lauxaniidae from 29.09.10 #2: Pseudolyciella? --> P. stylata group

Posted by Juergen Peters on 02-10-2010 23:46
#1

Hello!

Another 4 mm fly from a hedge (northwest Germany).

Edited by Juergen Peters on 03-10-2010 00:04

Posted by Juergen Peters on 02-10-2010 23:47
#2

Pic #2

Posted by rvanderweele on 02-10-2010 23:57
#3

It looks like a Pseudolyciella stylata group

Posted by Juergen Peters on 03-10-2010 00:04
#4

rvanderweele wrote:
It looks like a Pseudolyciella stylata group


Many thanks, Ruud.

Posted by katerina dvorakova on 03-10-2010 15:34
#5

I agree with RUUD :)
Katka

Posted by Juergen Peters on 03-10-2010 17:10
#6

Katerina Dvorakova wrote:
I agree with RUUD :)


Thanks a lot, Katka!

Posted by Paul Beuk on 04-10-2010 10:03
#7

But, as far as I know, it is usually called the pallidiventris group...

Posted by rvanderweele on 04-10-2010 13:14
#8

To this group belong pallidiventris, subpallidiventris en stylata I believe. I didn't now that it was called pallidiventris group, any way I cannot recall to have read it. Yet, Paul, when you say so, I am convinced you are right. I just called it stylata group for the simple fact that in my key first stylata is treated and that by chance I had some stylata in front of me last week.
Is there a rule for giving names to species-groups? Is it pallidiventris, because it was the first species to have been described (I believe by Fallen, I think, I have no lit. here)?

Now I am really going to hit the road.

Posted by Paul Beuk on 04-10-2010 13:58
#9

In the days we did not have Pseudolyciella I think the group was refered to as the Lyciella pallidiventris group, probably because that was the oldest described species in it. These days we have Pseudolyciella with 5 Palaearctic species, of which three have a greyish mesonotum and two a yellowish mesonotum with 1 or 3 vitae. The ones with greyish mesonotum are the old Lyciella pallidiventris group.