Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Two Tiny Flies, Short Antennae

Posted by Stephen on 30-08-2006 00:56
#1

Trying to figure out the family of these two tiny flies.

Fly #1: Size was 1.9 mm. Resting on a squash leaf, open area near woodlands, West Virginia USA, 10 August 2006.

Fly #2: Size was 3.2 mm. On Queen Anne's Lace, open area near a large pond, West Virginia USA, 27 August 2006.

Posted by Stephen on 30-08-2006 00:57
#2

Here is Fly #2

Posted by Nikita Vikhrev on 30-08-2006 09:03
#3

Hi Stephen.
1. Hydrellia sp., Ephidridae
2. I think some Chloropidae
Nikita

Posted by Stephen on 30-08-2006 23:12
#4

Thanks for your help Nikita! On Fly #1, he was not anywhere close to water, but I realize flies sometimes end up in unusual locations from wind or some other cause. He may have been out looking for a new location. Anyhow I appreciate your help with these two little guys!

Posted by Tony Irwin on 31-08-2006 00:41
#5

I agree with Nikita that fly number 1 is Hydrellia, though the wing venation appears to be unlike any European species. However I think this could be explained by the wings being rolled over slightrly. Perhaps the fly had only just emerged? The fact that it was not near water is not a problem, as several species of Hydrellia are stem miners of grasses rather than aquatic plants.
As for fly number 2, I don't think it is Chloropidae. Somehow it is not compact enough (wrong jizz!) My suggestion is Sepsidae, probably Saltella sphondylii.

Posted by Stephen on 31-08-2006 01:37
#6

Ah, stem miners in grasses. There certainly were abundant grasses nearby.

Thanks Tony!

Posted by Nikita Vikhrev on 31-08-2006 09:10
#7

I think Tony is right about N2. I've always seen Saltella wirh red parts of legs or body, but according Ozerov's description Saltella may be completely black as well.
Nikita

Posted by Andrey Ozerov on 05-09-2006 10:08
#8

Photo 2 is Saltella sphondylii (Schrank)
AO