Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Thereva

Posted by Juergen Peters on 13-08-2006 22:08
#1

Hello!

I found this beautiful Thereva today near the forest here in Ostwestfalen/Germany. Can the species be determined from the photos? Thanks in advance!


insekteninfos.de/forum/060813/Thereva_sp_1.jpg
insekteninfos.de/forum/060813/Thereva_sp_2.jpg
insekteninfos.de/forum/060813/Thereva_sp_3.jpg

Posted by Tony Irwin on 13-08-2006 22:51
#2

Hi Juergen
I wonder whether this might be a female Thereva handlirschi. (Not a species I'm familiar with, but the description seems to fit.) This is only a suggestion - it would be best to wait until someone familiar with the central European species can confirm this before adding it, even as a temporary name.

Posted by Zeegers on 14-08-2006 15:21
#3

Hi Juergen and Tony,

The species looks very yellow indeed, which makes Tony's guess a good one. However, I can see only 1 pair of dorsocentral bristles on the thorax. If that is correct, the picture cannot represent handlirschi, since this species has 2 pairs of DC before scutellum.
Maybe Juergen can check on an original at higher resolution ?


Theo Zeegers

Posted by Juergen Peters on 14-08-2006 20:31
#4

Hello, Tony and Theo!

Thanks for your replies!

Zeegers wrote:
since this species has 2 pairs of DC before scutellum.
Maybe Juergen can check on an original at higher resolution ?


Below two uncompressed extracts from the photos. But I am not sure, whether they show that detail better...

insekteninfos.de/forum/060813/Thereva_sp_01.jpginsekteninfos.de/forum/060813/Thereva_sp_02.jpg

Posted by Zeegers on 15-08-2006 10:16
#5

I can still see only one pair of DC.
But it is difficult to see, so I don't have a final opinion in this matter.
Sometimes we just cannot ID from fotos !

Theo

Posted by Juergen Peters on 15-08-2006 19:02
#6

Hello, Theo!

Zeegers wrote:
I can still see only one pair of DC.
But it is difficult to see, so I don't have a final opinion in this matter.
Sometimes we just cannot ID from fotos !


Thanks nevertheless!