Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Large Muscid (?)

Posted by Juergen Peters on 10-08-2006 01:06
#1

Hello!

These very big (15-20 mm) flies (80% males, 20% females) can be found at tree trunks on darker places in the forest or at night in our garden now (Ostwestfalen, Germany). Is this a Phaonia species (I thought of P. variegata)? Thanks!

www.foto-upload.de/diptera/060809/Phaonia_variegata_M1.jpg

www.foto-upload.de/diptera/060809/Phaonia_variegata_M2.jpg

Posted by Susan R Walter on 10-08-2006 08:05
#2

Jurgen

Hairy eyes, so not Phaonia or Muscina. My thought is Mydaea, or perhaps Polietes? Not Graphomyia because 4th vein does not bend up sharply?

This is all guess work on my part, and from memory, so do wait for someone with some real knowledge.

Posted by Tony Irwin on 10-08-2006 11:02
#3

I'd say Phaonia errans male. (Hairy eyes are OK in Phaonia.)

Posted by Susan R Walter on 10-08-2006 13:20
#4

Tony

Thanks for the note re eyes. It's always worth making a mistake on the forum if the feedback is informative. It all helps with the learning process.:)


Posted by Juergen Peters on 10-08-2006 20:29
#5

Hello, Susan and Tony!

Tony Irwin wrote:
I'd say Phaonia errans male. (Hairy eyes are OK in Phaonia.)


Many thanks!