Thread subject: Diptera.info :: New fly family for me..

Posted by jorgemotalmeida on 07-08-2006 17:03
#1

taken on 7th august 2006 in Silgueiros - VISEU above Cicuta sp.

What is this? Genus... and specie. :) Thank you.


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Edited by jorgemotalmeida on 07-08-2006 17:38

Posted by digitalg on 07-08-2006 17:22
#2

I'm risking my first hint on another's photo around here ... and please, don't believe me until further notice, and wait for the specialists :)

But I've seen lot's of flies like this where I am now and I've been calling them tachinids. I think this one might be a male.
The wings had some white on it?

Posted by Nikita Vikhrev on 07-08-2006 17:36
#3

I'm agree with Armando.
It was because I advised "to change category and wait for Theo and Chris" which is equal to "unknown for me Tachinidae".
Nikita

Posted by jorgemotalmeida on 07-08-2006 17:38
#4

Nikita Vikhrev wrote:
I'm agree with Armando.
It was because I advised "to change category and wait for Theo and Chris" which is equal to "unknown for me Tachinidae".
Nikita


Is this tachinid?? :|

I understand what you say, but it seems different and not usual like aother tachinids.

Posted by Nikita Vikhrev on 07-08-2006 17:57
#5

I'm very much affraid to write something about Tachinidae, because after Theo's appearence with correct ID I always feel myself idiot.
Ok, once again.
I think it is Tachinidae from subfamily Phasiinae, one of which you can always see at upper right corner of main page of this site.
Nikita

Posted by jorgemotalmeida on 07-08-2006 18:42
#6

Nikita Vikhrev wrote:
I'm very much affraid to write something about Tachinidae, because after Theo's appearence with correct ID I always feel myself idiot.
Ok, once again.
I think it is Tachinidae from subfamily Phasiinae, one of which you can always see at upper right corner of main page of this site.
Nikita


:)
You are not alone. But it is preferable to try identify and to make a mistake, THAN not to say nothing and do not to make a mistake? with error we learned. :)

Posted by Zeegers on 07-08-2006 20:32
#7

Don't (feel idiot)
Nikita is right, it is in Phasiinae.
Pity we can't see the wings, but there seems to be a central cloud.
In which case my guess would be a female of Ectophasia
(either crassipennis or oblonga, no way to tell for me from this picture)

Theo

Posted by conopid on 07-08-2006 20:33
#8

I'd say Phasia - looks very similar to Phasia obesa which we get here in UK.

Posted by digitalg on 07-08-2006 21:08
#9

Gee, I wrote Ectophasia and then I deleted it not to make an idiot of me (where did I see that written? ;)).

I've seen several flies here in Portugal (not that far from Viseu) that I think are also Ectophasia sp. But I've seen them with much bigger abdomens, really much bigger. That is the main reason I thought this one was male.

Edited by digitalg on 07-08-2006 21:10

Posted by Zeegers on 08-08-2006 20:25
#10

Given the wing pattern (have a closer look: strongly yellow at base, followed by the black spot) and the abdominal pattern (distinct lateral yellow spots on tergites), I persist in my previous call,
though I quite agree that it is difficult to see and Phasia obesa male are similar.


Theo