Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Athericidae? Empididae? or Rhagionidae, so confused!

Posted by Gnats2meetu on 02-03-2010 10:43
#1

:| Hi everyone, I would be much appreciated if you could cast your knowledgeable minds over pictures of this mysterious fly. I think it is an empid but I have never seen one with the kidney-shaped antennae that it has!

Its CUP cell is relatively short and does not extend to the wing margin like Athericidae pictures in the books i'm reading.

kindest regards,

Rob

Edited by Gnats2meetu on 02-03-2010 10:56

Posted by Paul Beuk on 02-03-2010 11:02
#2

Compare with Gloma fuscipennis of the Empididae (or Brachystomatidae in more modern classifications).

Posted by Gnats2meetu on 02-03-2010 11:44
#3

Here is a plan view

Edited by Gnats2meetu on 02-03-2010 11:54

Posted by Gnats2meetu on 02-03-2010 11:54
#4

Head view

Posted by Paul Beuk on 02-03-2010 12:28
#5

I cannot see the reniform antennae clearly in these picture, but if the third segment is clearly twice as high as the second segment, then it certainly is Gloma fuscipennis. Everything else fits quite nicely.

Posted by pwalter on 02-03-2010 15:40
#6

Nice find! Pls tell us the habitat and location!

Walter

Posted by Gnats2meetu on 02-03-2010 17:49
#7

Thanks a million guys. Sorry Paul the antennae are hard to make out from the photo i posted but I assure you they are reniform. It was found in a plantation canopy of sitka and norweigen spruce in Ireland.