Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Is this Tephritis separata?

Posted by cdavid on 01-08-2006 20:21
#1

This picture shows the wing of a Tephritis collected in Manche, France by Alain Livory. It might be T. separata Rondani or possibly T. divisa.

Can anyone confirm the species?

Charles David
www.biologicalrecordscentre.gov.gg/files/tephritid.jpg
EDIT Paul Beuk: tags changed so that image displays.

Edited by Paul Beuk on 02-08-2006 07:07

Posted by Tony Irwin on 01-08-2006 21:26
#2

Hi Charles
I'm no tephritid expert, but this looks rather like Tephritis neesi.
[Edit - Having checked some figures, suggested by Charles, I retract my suggestion and leave tephritids to others with more experience than me - see below! :|]

Edited by Tony Irwin on 02-08-2006 17:27

Posted by John Smit on 02-08-2006 17:09
#3

Hi Charles,

hmmm. seems you are at least somewhat familiar with the group, so I don't need to tell you that the genus Tephritis is one of the most difficult genera within the Palearctic Tephritid genera to identify. Within this genus the species group containing T. divisa is on of the most difficult species groups to identify. So you're asking me, or anyone else for that matter, to identify it by only a photo of the wing...?
Okay.
I think you are right, it might be T. divisa. It's probably not one of the other two species within this complex; T. separata for this normally has a clear spot in cell r1, and the spot just beyond crossvein r-m in cell r2+3 is normally bigger and not so perfectly conituous with the clear spot above in cell r1. And not T. mutabilis, for that one always has a clear spot in cell r2+3, before crossvein r-m.
But next time I would like just another simple photo / species.

Best wishes,

John