Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Dolichopodidae

Posted by Roger Thomason on 22-01-2010 17:39
#1

From the garden in summer...ID'able?

Posted by Stefan Naglis on 23-01-2010 16:07
#2

Sympycnus sp. male

Posted by Roger Thomason on 23-01-2010 19:21
#3

Thank you Stefan, the only Sympycnus I've seen here so far is S.pulicarius, maybe one of those?


Regards Roger

Posted by Igor Grichanov on 26-01-2010 13:11
#4

Why not S.pulicarius?

Sympycnus pulicarius (Fallén, 1823) and Sympycnus annulipes (Meigen, 1824) were synonymized by Meuffels (1981), who found a gradual transition from the longer third antennal segment of S. annulipes to the shorter third antennal segment of S. pulicarius, examining specimens of populations of different localities, mainly in the Netherlands. Later Cole (1990) commenting paper by Beuk (1990) has noted that in the British fauna mainly intermediate forms are present, but showing also a taxonomically insignificant variability in the hind tarsus morphology and even in the male genitalia. Later nobody provided key characters to distinguish different forms. In addition, nothing is known about ecological difference between those phenotypes; therefore, I consider the two names belonging to the same species, S. pulicarius.

Posted by Roger Thomason on 30-01-2010 21:46
#5

Thanks Igor...No reason for it not to be S.pulicarius, only enquiring if it might be ;). I had a female ID'd by Kahis a while back (Gallery), so now I have both sexes :)

Regards Roger
PS; Which BEUK (1990)??

Posted by Marc Pollet on 02-02-2010 01:16
#6

Dear Thomas,

Also notice that Parent (1925) described a species, Sympycnus desoutteri, that corresponds with most of the specimens I have collected in Belgium. Also know that Peter Chandler (UK) informed me some time ago that at least two morphologically different forms exist in the UK, but no attempt has been made thus far to work this mess out.

Cheers,
Marc

Posted by Marc Pollet on 02-02-2010 01:17
#7

Correct this time: of course, I mean Roger, not Thomas. Must be the late hour.
Cheers,
Marc

Posted by Paul Beuk on 02-02-2010 02:03
#8

Roger Thomason wrote:
PS; Which BEUK (1990)??

My Beuk (1990). You might be surprised but I could even write at that time. It was in the Empids and Dolies Newsletter of the Diptera Recording Schemes. I think I related some of Meuffels findings on i]Sympycnus[/i]. I may have the actual text somewhere,,,

Posted by Roger Thomason on 02-02-2010 11:16
#9

Thanks Marc...no need to apologise regarding my name...I think I've given every combination of the lettering of your name in the past, as anagrams. ;)
My Checklist has S.desoutteri but as per;
http://diptera.in...d_id=23039
I changed it.
So Paul, 20 years ago you were writing articles for the NDRS. Did you use coloured crayons or chalk? :)
Time to dig out the text.
Regards Roger

Posted by Paul Beuk on 02-02-2010 13:08
#10

Roger Thomason wrote:
So Paul, 20 years ago you were writing articles for the NDRS. Did you use coloured crayons or chalk? :)
Regards Roger

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