Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Scathopahgidae Nanna sp.?

Posted by blowave on 07-01-2010 20:28
#1

Taken on 9th August 2009, on my neighbour's marqee near Lincoln UK. One pic only but I have cropped off the head so posting two.

Janet

Edited by blowave on 09-01-2010 01:54

Posted by blowave on 07-01-2010 20:28
#2

crop

Posted by Paul Beuk on 08-01-2010 09:38
#3

Scathopahgidae. Nanna perhaps?

Posted by blowave on 09-01-2010 01:54
#4

If it is Nanna, we have 7 species listed. N. armillata, brevifrons, fasciata, multisetosa, tibiella, flavipes and inermis. The last two are in the Gallery and I don't think look like mine although the legs on N. flavipes look to match.

I'll change the title and hope someone can give it a name.;)

Posted by Cranefly on 09-01-2010 10:21
#5

Try to check the key. Nanna has 2 setae on scutellum, and this fly has 4.

Posted by Paul Beuk on 09-01-2010 10:36
#6

It was just a suggestion. I did not have a key at hand, so...

Posted by Stephane Lebrun on 09-01-2010 10:46
#7

I think it is Trichopalpus (=Chaetosa) punctipes, but I can't be sure without a lateral view.

Posted by blowave on 10-01-2010 00:10
#8

Stephane Lebrun wrote:
I think it is Trichopalpus (=Chaetosa) punctipes, but I can't be sure without a lateral view.


Thank you Stephane, if you are sure it is a Chaetosa sp. then we only the ones species listed for the UK, C. punctipes.

I checked Trichopalpus, we only have one species of that which is Trichopalpus fraternus

Both have a synonym or previous genus of Cordylura.

This might all be outdated, so where does that leave us?;)

Posted by Stephane Lebrun on 10-01-2010 13:27
#9

Chaetosa punctipes is a synonym of Trichopalpus punctipes, and I am not sure of the genus.

Posted by blowave on 10-01-2010 17:06
#10

I have checked on ITIS, as well as Biolib, there appears to be only one species of Chaetosa, which is C. punctipes.

http://www.itis.g...lue=148406

GBIF shows it in my area,

http://data.gbif....s/16084659

The NBN shows it either side of me but it's never up to date or is under-recorded.

http://data.nbn.o...0000030398

The synonym there is also Cordylura punctipes

The only reference I found for Trichopalpus punctipes was on a Norwegian document, neither ITIS or Species 2000 recognises it.

BUT there is a fly named Trichopalpus punctipes in the Gallery, and I have found the source of the name on a google, from an old thread here! It is from Gorodkov's key in Insecta of European part of USSR, 1970, vol.5, part2.

http://www.dipter...;pid=11682

http://www.dipter...to_id=2127

Does the current taxonomic information make this name incorrect?