Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Delia ID

Posted by cyprinoid on 10-12-2009 07:46
#1
Norway, 05.08

Posted by cyprinoid on 10-12-2009 07:51
#2
another view

Posted by cyprinoid on 10-12-2009 07:52
#3
one last

Posted by javanerkelens on 10-12-2009 13:29
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At first.....a female:o
So very confusing...
I could be wrong, but it seems to have some hairs between the notopleurals..
Means, that it could be Delia floralis/planipalpis/radicum, but they are very simulair to each other!
But when i look at the prealar (short) it does not fit, should be at least the same as the posterior notopleural.
I also see on the back of the occiput (on top) two rows of short hairs.......and i thought Delia has not.
Also not sure about the hairs on midtibia......does it have 2 pd or only 1pd (confusing with the posterior setae)
Can you still follow it...:D
Maybe possible to make an enlargement of the area between the neutopleurals to be sure if there are hairs between...?!

Joke van Erkelens

Posted by cyprinoid on 10-12-2009 21:00
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Does this help?

I assume it is the same species as this: http://www.flickr...4/sizes/o/
That's why I thought Delia, I might be worng.

Posted by javanerkelens on 10-12-2009 21:56
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Yes...there are some hairs between the notopleurals
I'm also thinking of Paregle (probable audacula)
Katepisternal whole with long fine hairs + prealar short+lower calypter about same (bit more) as upper calypter + no strong costal spine + propleuron bare...and strong av in middle on t2 !!

I think.....I'm right :D

Joke
Edited by javanerkelens on 10-12-2009 22:14

Posted by cyprinoid on 11-12-2009 00:27
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Hey Joke, thank you.

Could you take another look at this and see if you agree that it is the same species? It is from the same location.

http://diptera.in...d_id=23822

You have been there before :)

Posted by javanerkelens on 11-12-2009 00:52
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I tend to say..seems also Paregle, but don't see a strong anteroventral on mid of t2 and hairs between neutopleura also not visible.
Two days ago i collect also a simulair fly, but til now i stil can't get a right ID...also female :o
I'm looking to find the male, but not found yet....and weather is going below 0 degree,....so not much change now anymore.
Safe it for now as unsertain Paregle sp.

Joke :)