Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Calliphora

Posted by cyprinoid on 21-11-2009 21:16
#1

I assume this is Calliphora vicina.

But, I read somewhere (can't remember where, maybe here) that there's a similar species but different in autumn.
Which species can be confused with C. vicina and could this be one?

Edited by cyprinoid on 21-11-2009 21:17

Posted by cyprinoid on 21-11-2009 21:18
#2

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Edited by cyprinoid on 21-11-2009 21:18

Posted by Roger Thomason on 21-11-2009 21:38
#3

cyprinoid wrote:
I assume this is Calliphora vicina.

But, I read somewhere (can't remember where, maybe here) that there's a similar species but different in autumn.
Which species can be confused with C. vicina and could this be one?


Here is the one you were thinking of Hakon.
The best place to find recent threads is (in your case); Go to Forum Search...type in Calliphora...Sort; Click on Descending....Here's one I prepared earlier..http://diptera.in...d_id=25713

Roger

Looks like C.vicina but....

Edited by Roger Thomason on 21-11-2009 22:05

Posted by cyprinoid on 21-11-2009 23:46
#4

Thanks Roger!

A hard day and one Duvel, and I am incapacitated.

Posted by Zeegers on 23-11-2009 22:07
#5

This is vicina, only Calliphora with red gena.


Theo

Posted by cyprinoid on 24-11-2009 09:58
#6

Thaks Theo.

There seems to have been a mass awakening these days. I have found a few fresh specimens in my garden.

Posted by Zeegers on 25-11-2009 22:34
#7

Look for dark individuals, might prove to be something of interest (like loewi)


Theo

Posted by cyprinoid on 27-11-2009 13:14
#8

Thank you Theo, I will look out for Calliphora without red gena.


Posted by Jaakko on 27-11-2009 21:30
#9

Note that C. uralensis and subalpina have also quite yellow-orange gena! C. loewi is fairly common up here in North. You just need to go "into the wild", bit further from human dwellings. They visit flowers (Umbelliferae), so easy to pick. Since you live in Norway, beware of the more arctic species S. stelviana and genarum.

Posted by cyprinoid on 27-11-2009 23:42
#10

Thank you Jaakko for interesting information. I will take longer excursions next summer.

Edited by cyprinoid on 27-11-2009 23:51

Posted by Zeegers on 29-11-2009 11:35
#11

Really Jaakko, I'd never seen that !
Anyway, the anterior spiracle is yellow as well in the pic, so it really is vicina.
Species other than vicina and vomitoria are man-avoiding in my experience. Genarum should be rather common in northern Scandinavia. It is much smaller and might even be overlooked as Calliphora.


Theo

Posted by Jaakko on 30-11-2009 19:50
#12

Here's couple of images of C. uralensis, both quite soaked. Irritatingly vicina-like: dark calypters etc, however the anterior spiracle is a striking difference and basicosta is black! Until recently, I found calliphorids bit unmotivating and haven't collected any serious series. Jari F should have examples of subalpina, so he might post a potrait here as well. C. subalpina is easy to spot apart from these two from the clean-white calypters.

Posted by Jaakko on 30-11-2009 19:51
#13

And a female.

Posted by Roger Thomason on 30-11-2009 23:09
#14

Here are some pics which were thought to be
C.uralensis from last year in this thread
http://diptera.in...d_id=15828
Not seen any other postings of C.uralensis that I can think of...

Edited by Roger Thomason on 01-12-2009 07:33

Posted by Jaakko on 02-12-2009 09:55
#15

Hi,

As the calypters seem infuscated, uralensis is the only option to me.

Posted by Paul Beuk on 02-12-2009 11:17
#16

Zeegers wrote:
Really Jaakko, I'd never seen that !
Anyway, the anterior spiracle is yellow as well in the pic, so it really is vicina.
Species other than vicina and vomitoria are man-avoiding in my experience. Genarum should be rather common in northern Scandinavia. It is much smaller and might even be overlooked as Calliphora.


Theo
According to Rognes' key (or rather his description of uralensis), the anterior spiracle of uralensis sometimes IS pale.

Posted by cyprinoid on 11-12-2009 00:39
#17

To make things simple: C. vicina = yellow/red gena + yellow/red anterior spiracle.

Anything else is (more) interesting?

Depends on what is ment by pale in the description of uralensis. :)

For the record I found one tonight on my porch light, I have not had time to study it yet. Probably C. vicina.

Posted by Zeegers on 12-12-2009 10:28
#18

Yes, the main point of vicina is that the epaulette is yellow, whereas in hothers it is black.
However, this feature can be very very tricky in pictures due to shadows of flashlight. In collected specimens, it is no problem in my experience.


Theo

Posted by cyprinoid on 12-12-2009 20:39
#19

Vicina from today at -4º C.

Theo, what exactly do you mean by epaulette? Sorry for being stupid!

Posted by Roger Thomason on 12-12-2009 22:45
#20

cyprinoid wrote:
Vicina from today at -4º C.

Theo, what exactly do you mean by epaulette? Sorry for being stupid!


The Glossary is the place to look...:D
http://diptera.in...amp;id=241

Edited by Roger Thomason on 12-12-2009 23:11

Posted by cyprinoid on 13-12-2009 00:36
#21

Aha! Thank you Roger.

As you know, my ignorance knows no limits.