Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Muscidae or Anthomyiidae? (21.10.09)
Posted by Juergen Peters on 27-10-2009 22:06
#1
Hi!
With these three 6-7 mm flies from last week at the forest border (northwest Germany) I'm not even sure to put into which family...
Posted by Juergen Peters on 27-10-2009 22:07
#2
No. 2
Posted by Juergen Peters on 27-10-2009 22:08
#3
No. 3
Posted by lagura on 27-10-2009 23:11
#4
Hi Juergen.
1. Anthomyiidae, probably Hylemya (vagans or nigrimana)
2. Muscidae. Helina sp.?
3. Anthomyiidae. Probably Hylemya nigrimana
Edited by lagura on 28-10-2009 01:42
Posted by javanerkelens on 28-10-2009 00:48
#5
Difference between female of H.vagans and nigrimana is very difficult to make (both have mid and hind femora yellow and other characters are also very simular)
Male have visible difference.
Joke
Posted by Juergen Peters on 28-10-2009 03:28
#6
Hi, Lars and Joke!
Thanks for IDs and explanations. I was not sure, whether to put these three into one species/genus. So they're even not in the same family. I still have to learn a lot... :|
Posted by javanerkelens on 28-10-2009 13:37
#7
Maybe a little tip! ;)
When you are not sure if you have a Muscidae or Anthomyiidae, ....some females of Anthomyiidae have the frontal vitta orange and Muscidae has never!
(of course there are more flies with a yellow/red frontal vitta, but mostly when the fly is simulair to a Muscidae and with a red frontal vitta, you can be sure (98%) it is a Anthomyiidae)
Joke :)
Edited by javanerkelens on 28-10-2009 13:38