Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Pegomya sp. F (Anthomyiidae)

Posted by lagura on 25-10-2009 21:19
#1

I have followed the discussion about Kurt's recently posted Pegomya with great interest. This one seems to have most, if not all, of the required charcters for a P. winthemi. Or is it an entirely different species? :)

Size: ~6mm
Date: 05 October 2009
Loctation: On wooden railing around a pond (Helsingborg, Sweden)

Thanks!

Edited by lagura on 26-10-2009 01:12

Posted by lagura on 25-10-2009 21:20
#2

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Posted by lagura on 25-10-2009 21:21
#3

Third

Posted by javanerkelens on 25-10-2009 22:52
#4

At first....Anthomyiidae =mission impossible :D, but i wil give it a try to explane why i don't think it is a P.winthemi...

I can't see on your photos if the hind tarsi is laterally expanded.
Proboscis is clear yellow, but the palpus seems dark to me
It seems also to me that the arista is long haired (but can be a movement of the arista..?)....if so, then it is not a Pegomya at all..
Also the vitta seems all orange to me, and with the one i found yesterday, its only orange on the lower part.

I only have one species to compare with, so .....i don't dare to say wich species you have on the photo.
I study hard B), but not ready yet for species level....only familie level :D:D (sometimes)

Joke van Erkelens

Posted by lagura on 25-10-2009 23:10
#5

Thank you (I think :D) Joke.

I don't have any photo showing the tarsi, but the hind tarsi seem a little expanded.
Whether arista is long haired or not I can't say, but it's clearly plumose (see photo below).
If not Pegomya, then what?

Posted by javanerkelens on 26-10-2009 00:15
#6

Thank you (I think :D)
...Funny!

The hairs on the arista can fit within Pegomya.
When i look within the species with yellow calli+scutellum+addomen+legs.....the only one with longer aristal hairs, could be P.transgressa(Zetterstedt)
(longest hairs about as long as basal diameter of arista)
Also humelar calli and suctellum has to be less orange and hindtibia with 2 ad setae + tarsi darker.
But is it ...transgressa?
I don't want to make the experts angry :o
So...i let it be....a Pegomya sp. ;)

Joke

Posted by lagura on 26-10-2009 01:23
#7

Thank you Joke for taking all this time with me and my little fly. I'm perfectly happy with Pegomya sp. and I find your notes on my photo most educational.

You should be aware, though, that I will be back with more impossile missions :D