Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Sciomyza testacea, Sciomyzidae

Posted by JariF on 27-09-2009 16:00
#1

Hi,

I wonder if this Pherbellia is just dubia ? Third segment of antenna is very dark, not just the tip. September 6.2009 Helsinki, Finland.

Jari

Edited by JariF on 07-02-2011 08:59

Posted by JariF on 29-09-2009 19:30
#2

Nobody knows ?

Posted by Nikita Vikhrev on 29-09-2009 22:09
#3

Jari, I'd check Sciomyza testacea. If so - rare fly...

Posted by JariF on 30-09-2009 16:07
#4

Thank's Nikita. Sciomyza yes but Kahis was thinkin a bit more common species Sciomyza sebezhica Przhiboro, 2001 I will show him the specimen next week so we will know then. Something new and exotic for me anyway :)

Jari

Posted by JariF on 05-10-2009 16:58
#5

Hi,

I was visiting Kahis today and now we have a name: Sciomyza sebezhica Przhiboro, 2001 Not very common fly at all :)

Jari

Posted by Nikita Vikhrev on 24-07-2010 19:34
#6

I insist on S. testacea. I don’t doubt Kahis’s ID, but I doubt that S. sebezhica does exist.
The species described by single male holotype. Well, sometime it is possible.
Przhiboro gived 2 characters in diagnosis:
1. Male terminalia distinctive. Distinctive from whom? Only terminalia of S. simplex are given!
But nobody doubts that simplex differs from testacea. But drawing of terminalia of testacea not given. Neither explained what the difference between terminalia of sebezhica and testacea is.
2. t1 with only 1 dorsal preapical. Good! And other 2 female specimens reared together have 2 dorsal preapical and than belong to testacea! A ridiculous character, doesn’t it?
So, sebezhica should be a synonym of testacea. And I formally publish this my opinion in next suitable article.

Posted by JariF on 25-07-2010 04:04
#7

Interesting. Let's wait and see what will happen :)

Jari

Posted by Nikita Vikhrev on 06-02-2011 23:59
#8

I published my opinion that S. sebezhica is a junior synonym of S. testacea here:
http://www.biosoi.../N-220.pdf

P.S. Here I'd like to add these two sentences cut down by the editor:
The synonymy of Sciomyza sebezhica Przhiboro, 2001 is proposed without examination of the holotype. I consider it needless because I do not call in question any characters given in the original description of T. sebezhica, but I do not regard these characters taxonomically significant.

EDIT Paul Beuk: pdf link made clickable.

Edited by Paul Beuk on 07-02-2011 11:00

Posted by JariF on 07-02-2011 08:58
#9

Ok Nikita, this case seems to be closed :) I have Sciomyza testacea instead of sebezhica. I hope Jere will read this too and do corrections to our list of species. The picture in the gallery needs a new name too.

Jari

Posted by Paul Beuk on 07-02-2011 12:20
#10

Gallery image has been dealt with. ;) Now to classify my Greek Sciomyza specimen. Might be something new... ;)