Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Cheilosia bergenstammi ??
Posted by harry1960 on 20-09-2009 09:51
#1
Can someone tell me if this is a Cheilosia bergenstammi (F) or just Cheilosia spec. ?
btw picture made yesterday in Belgium, size aprox. or less then 1 cm.
TY for answering
Edited by harry1960 on 20-09-2009 10:33
Posted by harry1960 on 20-09-2009 10:08
#2
can someone see a picture ?
I cant
ty
Posted by Lukasz Mielczarek on 20-09-2009 11:57
#3
I think Cheilosia canicularis.
Posted by harry1960 on 20-09-2009 12:31
#4
seems to be a difficult spieces, ty for now.
I'll wait what others will say about it.
TY
Harry
Posted by Andre on 20-09-2009 18:45
#5
Bergenstammi seems right to me (second generation).
Next time, post it in the Syrphidae section, you'll likely get more response there on Syrphidae matters (and certainly Roger shows up there to, just once in a while :D )
Posted by harry1960 on 20-09-2009 20:10
#6
Ok ty
sorry for choosing the wrong forum.
Posted by Roger Thomason on 20-09-2009 21:08
#7
Andre wrote:
Bergenstammi seems right to me (second generation).
Next time, post it in the Syrphidae section, you'll likely get more response there on Syrphidae matters (and certainly Roger shows up there to, just once in a while :D )
Fat lot of use I am there too. Speciality is sending in multiple images of
Platycheirus normally
manicatus
Not many different types of Syrphids here this year :|
Regards (
Platycheirus 'R' Us) Roger
Edited by Roger Thomason on 20-09-2009 21:09
Posted by Andre on 20-09-2009 21:53
#8
You can always switch to beetles Roger. Or sheep.
Posted by Roger Thomason on 21-09-2009 09:08
#9
Still doing beetles..send them to Frank Koehler..don't get grief from him, unlike my Nemesis J.B.
Sheep pimping is a distant memory...a couple of big Eastern European Mafia girls took over the market, Valery and Nikita are there (THEIR..Thank you
Andrea...see later post) names, haven't seen them yet, but they e-mailed threatening to rip off my arms and beat me to death with the wet ends...so I quit, changed my name and have gone into hiding.
Regards Hector
Edited by Roger Thomason on 21-09-2009 13:18
Posted by Andre on 21-09-2009 11:21
#10
Hi Hector,
I always thought Valery and Nikita were names for Russian men, rather than girls....???? :D
(Besides, it's 'their' names... sorry to correct you, I'm so arrogant)
Greetings, Stiller
Posted by Roger Thomason on 21-09-2009 12:01
#11
Andre wrote:
Hi Hector,
I always thought Valery and Nikita were names for Russian men, rather than girls....???? :D
(Besides, it's 'their' names... sorry to correct you, I'm so arrogant)
Greetings, Stiller
Thanks for correcting my mis-spelling Andrea...see I'm almost human after all.
That's a relief that they are men...imagine being bludgeoned to death with your own arms by a couple of Hammer Throwing Women...the shame.
Hector Head Sclaterscrae
Edited by Roger Thomason on 21-09-2009 12:47
Posted by Andre on 21-09-2009 19:20
#12
Wouldn't that be great for a splutter-movie?
Always much better than watching someone come down from a roof, if you ask me...
Posted by Gerard Pennards on 21-09-2009 20:19
#13
Well, I'm glad to see you're having fun my dear friends, but shall we return to the fly for an instance? :D
Andre, take a better look at the fly and you'll see it's a female canicularis.......
Head profile is different from bergenstammi, and it has only long hairs on the scutellum, not bristles. The size was about 13 mm, so that's also more like canicularis.
Greetings
Edited by Gerard Pennards on 21-09-2009 20:20
Posted by harry1960 on 21-09-2009 20:53
#14
I had never so much emails from diptera :)
To bad most of them oftopic.
TY Gerard, I've changed the input too C. canicularis.
Harry
Posted by Andre on 21-09-2009 22:25
#15
Gerard Pennards wrote:
Andre, take a better look at the fly and you'll see it's a female canicularis.......
Head profile is different from bergenstammi, and it has only long hairs on the scutellum, not bristles. The size was about 13 mm, so that's also more like canicularis.
Greetings
Hi Gerard... I agree there is room for discussion, but you seem to see other things on the picture than me. For one thing, the size is 1 cm or less (see text above picture). Second, it is not clearly visible if there are longer bristles or not, between the hairs. Third, to my opinion the facial knob and the sides don't show any microtrichia, looks very shiny on this picture. Fourth, I think you are right anyway... :@
Posted by Andre on 21-09-2009 22:27
#16
harry1960 wrote:
I had never so much emails from diptera :)
To bad most of them oftopic.
Harry
What's wrong with being off-topic??? :( :o :P :D
We attracted Gerard's attention, didn't we?!
Posted by Roger Thomason on 21-09-2009 22:36
#17
I have to agree with Andrea..plus most of the off-topic stuff was a direct consequence of your inability to post a photograph***......not many threads today anyway...got to entertain the troops somehow.
Hector :P
***
EDIT; Several of mine helpfully giving instructions on how to post an image and informing you that it was posted in the wrong Forum have been deleted by the Webmaster...Thankfully.
Edited by Roger Thomason on 22-09-2009 17:47
Posted by Gerard Pennards on 21-09-2009 22:43
#18
Especially for Andre....
http://forum.waarneming.nl/smf/index.php?topic=92290.0
:D :D :D :D :D
Posted by Roger Thomason on 21-09-2009 23:03
#19
:D:D:D:D:D:D PLONKER......Never had so many posts.:D:D.............off topic my ass.:D
AFAIK ..Mk.2
NICE ONE GERARD :D
:D Hector:D:D
Edited by Roger Thomason on 21-09-2009 23:08
Posted by harry1960 on 21-09-2009 23:16
#20
About the size, Ive checked it again after a day long discussion on a dutch forum, after messering the leave where the fly on sits I come too 13mm.
So the less 1cm was a mistake.
Harry
Posted by Andre on 22-09-2009 12:15
#21
Gerard Pennards wrote:
Especially for Andre....
http://forum.waarneming.nl/smf/index.php?topic=92290.0
:D :D :D :D :D
I refuse to use that site for insects other than Odonata, Lepidoptera, Orthoptera and that kind.