Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Tachinid or Rhinophorid?
Posted by conopid on 08-07-2006 23:37
#1
I have keyed this out as Leucostoma simplex, which seems very unlikely, given its status in the UK. Although I have used Belshaw to confirm it is a Tachinid, I am wondering if I have gone wrong and it is actually a Rhinophorid. The photo of the subscutellum below shows a brown area between the scutellum and subscutellum, but this appears to be a flat area on the top part of the subscutellum, rather than a joining membrane.
This is a small fly, about 5mm in length. It has very large eyes.
Any help gratefully received (one for Chris Raper me-thinks).
Posted by conopid on 08-07-2006 23:39
#2
Photo of scutellum below
Posted by ChrisR on 08-07-2006 23:40
#3
Looks like
Phasia pusilla (Tachinidae) - does it have black haltares and black hairs on the gena? :)
Posted by Nikita Vikhrev on 08-07-2006 23:40
#4
Anyway Chris will correct my, so why not say what I think:
may be Phasia (barbifrons/obesa)?
Posted by conopid on 08-07-2006 23:42
#5
Blimey Chris, that was very quick!
I will just go and check now. Do they call this live workshopping?
Posted by conopid on 08-07-2006 23:47
#6
Yes, it has black halteres and black hairs on the gena.
Thanks for help Chris, I will be able to see where I have gone wrong in the key now. - I love this web site!
For info. Fly caught today at Venus Pool, Cound, Shropshire at GR SJ553062
Posted by ChrisR on 08-07-2006 23:54
#7
As the firing squad says - "we aim to please" ;)
If you're in doubt about rhinophorids - try my page here
http://tachinidae.../rhino.php
Edited by ChrisR on 08-07-2006 23:55
Posted by conopid on 09-07-2006 00:01
#8
Hi Chris,
I did in fact refer to a printed copy of your page. I just wanted to be sure it was not a Rhinophorid, because the brown colour threw me into doubt.
I went wrong at Couplet 95 - presence of distinct bristles on abdomen. To my untrained eye all the hairs look like bristles! At least they would certainly pass as bristles in Syrphidae, my area of "expertise".
I have plenty more Tachinids awaiting ID. It's going to be along hard winter of staring down a microscope!
Cheers
Nigel
Posted by ChrisR on 09-07-2006 00:04
#9
Actually, I made the same mistake a while back - some
Phasia have very large hairs on T4 and T5 and I managed to make a
Phasia into a
Graphogaster . This was years ago though, in my youth - but I only just noticed the mistake!! So, now I have to write up the correction ... but fortunately it turns out that the specimen is
Phasia barbifrons and it is (as far as I know) the earliest known record of this species in Britain!! ;)