Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Eliozeta or Clytiomyia?

Posted by Rui Andrade on 24-07-2009 21:23
#1

What is possible to say about it?

location: Viana do Castelo, Portugal
date: 10/07/2009

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Posted by jorgemotalmeida on 24-07-2009 22:09
#2

I'd say Eliozeta. Hairs on the abdomen are recumbent, no erect as it happens with Clytiomyia.
Wait for Theo, Chris, Jaako, neprisi.... :D

Posted by ChrisR on 24-07-2009 22:23
#3

How many sternopleurals/katepisternals does it have?

269. 3 st (but the lower sometimes hardly differentiated from the hairs). Males: hairs of the tergites in their centre - as on the sides - prone; if a few hairs are raised, then these remain considerably shorter than 0.5 of the marginal bristles; tergite 6 bare or with hairs on its dorsal area. Females: parafrontalia outside the frontal bristles with hairs............Eliozeta (page 66)
- 2 st. Males: hairs on the middle of the tergites raised, the longest hairs at least as long as 0.5 the marginal bristles; tergite 6 always with hairs on its dorsal area. Females: parafrontalia outside the frontal bristles bare...............Clytiomya [continua Panz.]


:)

Edited by ChrisR on 24-07-2009 22:26

Posted by Rui Andrade on 24-07-2009 22:24
#4

I hope you are right, I've never seen Eliozeta:).

Posted by Rui Andrade on 24-07-2009 22:26
#5

ChrisR wrote:
How many sternopleurals/katepisternals does it have?

269. 3 st (but the lower sometimes hardly differentiated from the hairs). Males: hairs of the tergites in their centre - as on the sides - prone; if a few hairs are raised, then these remain considerably shorter than 0.5 of the marginal bristles; tergite 6 bare or with hairs on its dorsal area. Females: parafrontalia outside the frontal bristles with hairs............Eliozeta (page 66)
- 2 st. Males: hairs on the middle of the tergites raised, the longest hairs at least as long as 0.5 the marginal bristles; tergite 6 always with hairs on its dorsal area. Females: parafrontalia outside the frontal bristles bare...............Clytiomya [continua Panz.]


:)


Humm, I'll check.

Posted by jorgemotalmeida on 24-07-2009 22:29
#6

yes. I tried to count the katapisternal setae... but it is not possible here. :(

Posted by Rui Andrade on 24-07-2009 22:36
#7

I see only two katepisternals, despite the legs being in a position that makes it difficult to see very well. I think that there isn't a lower bristle.

Posted by Zeegers on 26-07-2009 20:44
#8

The third antennal segment is elongated and the arista strongly crassate, therefore, it is pellucens, and thus Eliozeta.
This is always the first thing to check, when in doubt !

Theo

Posted by Rui Andrade on 27-07-2009 02:05
#9

Thank you very much Theo, this is my first Eliozeta:D

Posted by jorgemotalmeida on 27-07-2009 08:55
#10

Yesterday I saw two in Serra da Estrela. ;)