Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Black Syrphid..<Melanogaster hirtella (M) ID'd by Caliprobola

Posted by Roger Thomason on 31-05-2009 15:45
#1

Spotted this little black guy in the garden today.
Could it be a Cheilosia?
There is one record of a Cheilosia albitarsis being collected in Shetland in June 1890...
Could this be the first recorded in 119 years?

EDIT; Changed title from Cheilosia to Melanogaster

Edited by Roger Thomason on 13-06-2009 00:18

Posted by Roger Thomason on 31-05-2009 15:46
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Posted by Roger Thomason on 31-05-2009 15:47
#3

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Posted by Paul Beuk on 31-05-2009 20:29
#4

Looks like Cheilosia, 'but it ain't albitarsis'. :D

Posted by Roger Thomason on 31-05-2009 20:33
#5

Paul Beuk wrote:
Looks like Cheilosia, 'but it ain't albitarsis'. :D


Well if it ain't albitarsis then it is a new species for Shetland. :). Even better.

Posted by Lukasz Mielczarek on 31-05-2009 22:12
#6

Not Cheilosia. I think more like Melanogaster...

Posted by Roger Thomason on 01-06-2009 01:20
#7

:|..Thanks Lukasz,
I have one species : Melanogaster hirtella on my Checklist..which is a common resident according to my list.
I haven't seen it before...oh well.
Regards Roger

Anyone confirm this as Melanogaster hirtella?

Posted by caliprobola on 01-06-2009 10:34
#8

definetely Melanogaster and most probably hirtella

Edited by caliprobola on 01-06-2009 10:34

Posted by Andre on 01-06-2009 10:49
#9

but also possible: Melanogaster aerosa. But for a waterproof ID, we'd need the specimen.

Posted by Roger Thomason on 01-06-2009 21:55
#10

Moral dilemma here guys...odd if someone gets on the wrong side of me I have absolutely no qualms in battering the s**t out of them, and have done so on many occasions, but I can't kill a fly....how can that be? If I was to turn into a murderer of flies (sorry..dipterist), what is the quickest way? Without all the gubbins of you REAL dipterists, IE chemicals and so on? Freezer? God, how to catch them without a net...or do I go for M hirtella ARGH.........:o. Anyway..I'm busy re-slating my roof at present, so will think about it...Regards Roger

Edited by Roger Thomason on 01-06-2009 21:56