Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Phaonia gobertii (ID Stephane Lebrun)
Posted by javanerkelens on 14-02-2009 21:40
#1
Found Bilthoven (Nethe) 27-04-2004
After several evenings of search, I come to Phaonia aeneiventris.
arista short haired !
eyes haired
elongated pre-se-acr
(and there are some pale hairs below post-spir.)
Could it be possible....??
Edited by javanerkelens on 15-02-2009 16:08
Posted by Nikita Vikhrev on 15-02-2009 13:00
#2
Joke, check it isn't Helina evecta
Posted by javanerkelens on 15-02-2009 13:25
#3
Helina evecta was one of the possibylities, but the arista is not long plumose and the pre-alar is strong and has the same lenght as the post-notopl....
I try to make another photo...
Joke
Posted by Stephane Lebrun on 15-02-2009 14:00
#4
What about Phaonia gobertii ?
It has some hairs under post spiracle, elongated presut acr., long pra, black legs, and short plumose arista (less than, or at most half long as 3ant width)...
And April is enough early for it.
Edited by Stephane Lebrun on 15-02-2009 14:01
Posted by javanerkelens on 15-02-2009 14:02
#5
Here some more photo's
(and H. evecta has no pd seta)
Joke:)
Posted by javanerkelens on 15-02-2009 14:06
#6
What about Phaonia gobertii ?
P.gobertii has the katepimeron bare, and whit my fly it is whit many hairs...
Joke
Posted by javanerkelens on 15-02-2009 15:28
#7
Katepisternal hairs on one site 3 and on the other site whit an extra hair below the anterior one (red stripe in photo)
Setae on hind tibia noticed whit red points.
Maybe it wil help...otherwise I wil put the fly back in the box and take a nice cup of tea...:D
Joke van Erkelens
Posted by Stephane Lebrun on 15-02-2009 15:41
#8
Just to be sure we 're talking about the same thing : katepisternum is not katepimeron, isn't it ?
Posted by javanerkelens on 15-02-2009 16:03
#9
Just to be sure we 're talking about the same thing : katepisternum is not katepimeron, isn't it ?
Oh oh...you are right...katepimeron is bare (my mistake):(
Then it is most likely P.gobertii (Mik,1881)
May I thank you very much !!!;)
Joke
Edited by javanerkelens on 15-02-2009 16:06
Posted by Stephane Lebrun on 15-02-2009 16:18
#10
Good news ! :)
Let's have a cup of tea...:D