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Posted by bobgaia on 26-02-2005 20:49

Hello,

Still a parasite of Timarcha larva, perhaps dipterous....or not ?
It seems dried...
..died...:(....?
10 mm
found in France, Chervettes (17)
24/02/2005

Edited by bobgaia on 09-11-2023 18:10

Posted by Paul Beuk on 27-02-2005 17:14

I do not hink it can be anything else than a dipterous parasitoid. My books with pupae illustrations are all in the office so I will check when I get to work on Monday. Maybe a tachinid?

Posted by ChrisR on 27-02-2005 20:12

Looks very like a tachinid puparium to me - but i can't quite find any image that matches it exactly. Both Peleteria & Phasia appear to have species that produce those long 'horns'. If anyone has Joachim Ziegler's paper and has better German than me they might be able to shed more light on the subject. :)

Chris R.

Posted by Paul Beuk on 28-02-2005 10:37

Macquartia's are tachinids parasitising on Chrysomelidae. I will try to find out if there are images of there puparia around somewhere.

Posted by ChrisR on 28-02-2005 12:03

Joachim Ziegler's excellent work in Studia Dipterologica - Supplement 3 (1998) figures Macquartia tenebricosa in a few places and it does appear that they too have projections like the one in the picture. Our database lists Macquartia dispar as patasitizing Timarcha spp. but it is possible the other Macquartia spp. do also.

Chris R.

Posted by bobgaia on 11-03-2005 19:11

Hello,

Today 5:15 pm

To be continued......

Edited by bobgaia on 09-11-2023 18:00

Posted by bobgaia on 12-03-2005 21:41

Problem with the wings...:(:(:(

Edited by bobgaia on 09-11-2023 17:56

Posted by Zeegers on 14-03-2005 09:26

Oke, you did your best with the pictures, so I can give it a try.

It is a Tachinid (most likely),
and given the pictures and the now host,
my best guess it is a species of Macquartia, most probably M. dispar female.
If you can make a picture of the head in profile, I can be more sure.

Theo Zeegers

Posted by bobgaia on 15-03-2005 20:38

Thanks, Theo, for you answer.

Head

Edited by bobgaia on 09-11-2023 17:53

Posted by Zeegers on 16-03-2005 21:34

#10

Thanks for the picture.

I am prtetty sure that this is a female Macquartia dispar.
It could also be M. viridana, which can hardly be told apart in the female sex. However, viridana is very rare (and dispar just not so common).

Thanks for the results

Theo Zeegers

Posted by bobgaia on 17-03-2005 23:45

#11

If you want Theo I can send the specimen to you.....

abdomen

Edited by bobgaia on 09-11-2023 17:54

Posted by Zeegers on 01-04-2005 19:51

#12

Bob

Congratulions !

It is a female Macquartia viridana after all !
Quite a rare species, so less so in southern France.

All Macquartia are paratitoids of Chrysomelidae.
M. viridana was not yet known (to my knowledge) from Timarcha.
M. dispar was.

Thanks

Theo

Posted by bobgaia on 02-04-2005 13:08

#13

Thank you very much, Theo, for the identification.

More renseignement about my specimen.
I found the pupe in grass, on the ground, slightly buried at the base of a telephone pole.
February 24, 2005 in Chervettes (17), Charente-Maritime, France.

Thanks...;)

Bob

Edited by bobgaia on 06-12-2023 14:52