Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Giant Sciaridae?

Posted by Isidro on 21-09-2008 14:18
#1

This curious Nematocera was yesterday in Juslibol, very near Zaragoza, NE Spain, taking sunbath in a leaf of Arundo donax, between cultivation fields and dense river forest. It's about 8-9 mm. long, including wings.
Could be identified?
I have it collected.
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Thanks,
Regards

Edited by Paul Beuk on 23-09-2008 20:42

Posted by Isidro on 22-09-2008 07:01
#2

Hi flyforum....

(Jorge, at least say if you're interested in it...)

Posted by Paul Beuk on 22-09-2008 07:54
#3

I certainly am. Does not look like Sciaridae to me, though. Coxae are far too short. I am certainly interested. :D

Posted by Kahis on 22-09-2008 08:47
#4

Scatopsidae?

Posted by Paul Beuk on 22-09-2008 08:50
#5

Antennae far too long. Thought about Pachyneuridae but that's book wisdom only as I don't know the family from actual specimens. And I am not certain they have been found in southern Europe.

Posted by Isidro on 22-09-2008 23:03
#6

Tnhanks. Paul, where are you from? England? Maybe I can send the exemplar.
As in the Conops I put two photos in this thread. Only the lateral one is seen here. Dorsal one where venation can be seen is not shown.

Posted by Paul Beuk on 23-09-2008 06:13
#7

Such a pity that the wing venation is not well visible. If it were not for the head I would say Ceratopogonidae, but the antennae seem to be totally off.
And, BTW, I am in the Netherlands.

Posted by Isidro on 23-09-2008 23:44
#8

:|a little far

I'll try to take photos of wings.
Thanks Paul.
Yours

Posted by jorgemotalmeida on 24-09-2008 10:00
#9

no, thanks, Isidro. Took one specimen for Paul. :P
To me it is a Pachyneuridae. Antennae are as long as thorax, I see a very faint stigma in the second image on the wing. And... of course, with the wing venation we could confirm the family. A pity that the wing is out of focus.

Edited by jorgemotalmeida on 24-09-2008 10:05

Posted by Patrycja on 24-09-2008 15:27
#10

Hmmmm, and I agree with Paul - for me it is a biting midge, female of the genus Macropeza.
Regards,
Patrycja

Posted by Isidro on 25-09-2008 12:06
#11

Thanks Patricia.

Posted by Paul Beuk on 25-09-2008 12:45
#12

If you happen to find it again, you can send it and make more pictures. ;)

Posted by Patrycja on 25-09-2008 16:03
#13

There is only one species of Mcropeza known from Spain - M. navasi. I don't have this fly in my collection and I have never seen it before. Nice pale tibiae;):)...

Posted by Isidro on 29-09-2008 22:35
#14

Thanks again.

Paul, do you received my PM?
I've found today the exemplar! So, I can send you.

Posted by Paul Beuk on 29-09-2008 22:51
#15

Yeah, I got the PM:
Paul Beuk wrote:
If you happen to find it again, you can send it and make more pictures. ;)