Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Emmesomyia

Posted by Nikita Vikhrev on 08-08-2008 18:15
#1

I'm in doubts about species: terg6 wide, but shining, left f3 with 1 short pv, right with 2 long pv.
Please, is it possible to distinguish females?!

Posted by javanerkelens on 08-08-2008 22:48
#2

left f3 with 1 short pv, right with 2 long pv.


Are you meaning that the left femur has a short pv, and the right femur has 2 long pv...:o..........do I understand that the setae on the left femur can by different on the right femur.

Only try to learn...:D
Joke

Edited by javanerkelens on 08-08-2008 23:00

Posted by Michael Ackland on 10-08-2008 10:23
#3

Nikita: I assume that you have said Emmesomyia because there is a seta just below the wing base? (on anepimeron)

Tergite 6 all shining=E. grisea RD
Tergite 6 grey dusted on hind margin=socia Fall.

javanerkelens: Unfortunately in some specimens the setae can vary on left or right legs.

Posted by Nikita Vikhrev on 10-08-2008 10:48
#4

Joke, I'm learning too, listen to Expert ;)
Thank you Michael.
1. Of course, rather strong seta on pteropleuron present.
2. On this specimen terg6 good visible and completely shining.
3. Females of Emmesomyia are common on various excrements in forest. But I have never seen a male.
Nikita

Posted by Nikita Vikhrev on 13-08-2008 06:44
#5

I've come back from Kursk region.
Dear Michael,
1. Is it correct that E.grisea is more northen species and E.socia more southern?
2. Is it correct that in field E.socia is generally bigger and with somewhat more glossy/shining body than E.grisea?
Nikita

Posted by Nikita Vikhrev on 14-08-2008 11:17
#6

P.S. I'm especially interesting about this ID because Emmesomyia is one of the most common prey of S.stercoraria

Posted by Michael Ackland on 14-08-2008 22:48
#7

I will have to look up the distribution of grisea and socia, Offhand I can't answer the questions!

Posted by Nikita Vikhrev on 15-08-2008 09:12
#8

In Kursk region I collected first time in my life one male of Emmesomyia. Male is E.socia without doubts.