Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Calliphoridae, Protophormia terraenovae?
Posted by Jan Zwaaneveld on 08-08-2008 16:40
#1
I found this fly (appr. 8-10 mm) on 26th July in a small wood at Heukelum, Netherlands. I think it could be Protophormia terraenovae. Could anyone confirm or correct my id?
Thank you in advance!
Pic 1
Posted by Jan Zwaaneveld on 08-08-2008 16:41
#2
Pic 2
Posted by Jan Zwaaneveld on 08-08-2008 16:41
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Pic 3
Posted by Susan R Walter on 08-08-2008 18:53
#4
The black wing bases and very dark undusted blue body indicate
Protophormia and the head profile indicates
terranovae.
Posted by Jan Zwaaneveld on 08-08-2008 20:31
#5
O.k. Susan, thanks very much for your help.
Posted by Nikita Vikhrev on 08-08-2008 22:36
#6
In Russia Protophormia is much more common than in warm Europe. Usually Protophormia has more bluish color, but may be greenish, like this one.
But this one isn't Protophormia:
both calypteres should be very dark;
scutum has to be somewhat flatterned dorsoventraly;
too much presutural setae.
Susan, may be some Protocalliphora?
Nikita
Posted by Zeegers on 09-08-2008 09:20
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I'm not an expert, but last month I saw a lot of Protophormia in Kyrgyzstan.
And my impression as well is that this is Protocalliphora.
Maybe a flash made some shade over the calyptra ?
Or some other dirty trick ?
Theo
Posted by Jan Zwaaneveld on 09-08-2008 10:54
#8
Hmm, I'm quite sure I didn't use flash on this one.
Thank you for your remarks, Nikita and Theo.
Susan, do you agree now that this is Protocalliphora?
Posted by Susan R Walter on 09-08-2008 11:50
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Dunno - I had real reservations about it too - I thought it was too hairy, the antennae too short and the calypters too yellow for Protophormia too - that's why I didn't out and out state it was Protophormia. Probably should just not post when I am tired ;) I'm not really that familiar with Protophormia either, so am happy to concede to you guys who do see it more often. What puzzles me though is the apparently black wing bases and lack of dusting - Protocalliphora should have brown wing bases and quite a bit of dusting. Is this perhaps a very dark, very fresh Protocalliphora?
Posted by Nikita Vikhrev on 09-08-2008 16:52
#10
Sorry, Susan, in my turn, I have near zero experiens in Protocalliphora :(
Posted by Jan Zwaaneveld on 09-08-2008 20:03
#11
Sounds like this is going to be a very difficult one :o