Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Greek Tachinid (?)
Posted by Gerard Pennards on 22-07-2008 20:16
#1
On the Island of Zakynthos in Greece I caught these little (presumably) Tachinids, which have some strange features. I caught them running on rocks thinking they were Sepsids, because they held their wings just like them, however they did not move then as strongly as sepsids do. The size is about 3 to 4 mm.
Under the microscope I discovered they were calyptratae flies, but which one?
They have a few minute bristles on the meron, but hardly visible, and a swollen subscutellum so I think they could be Tachinids.
Big round head and very big mouth opening, costal and subcostal cel are darkened. Could they be Tachinids, and so which one?
Greetings, Gerard
Edited by Gerard Pennards on 22-07-2008 20:19
Posted by Gerard Pennards on 22-07-2008 20:16
#2
Again
Posted by Gerard Pennards on 22-07-2008 20:17
#3
Abdomen
Posted by Gerard Pennards on 22-07-2008 20:18
#4
Head frontal
Posted by Gerard Pennards on 22-07-2008 20:18
#5
Mouth opening
Posted by ChrisR on 22-07-2008 20:36
#6
Wow - interesting phasiines but I have never seen things like this so we must wait for Theo to see if he knows it. :)
Posted by Zeegers on 22-07-2008 21:57
#7
A Tachinid, possbily Catharosia or some very unusual Phasia (I don't think so), or just possibly Mesnilomyia.
I need to see the animals, I don't recognize this species.
So Gerard, please take them with you some time we meet.
Theo
Posted by Gerard Pennards on 23-07-2008 09:57
#8
Deat Theo, we'll do!
Btw are you interested in looking at a lot more tachinidae from all kind of (European) countries?
They're from The Netherlands, France, Poland, Greece and others.
If so, maybe we should get in contact for an appointment.
Greetings
Posted by Zeegers on 23-07-2008 21:23
#9
Right,
I'm back from holiday, so maybe I'll jump on my bike to visit you !
Theo
Posted by Gerard Pennards on 25-07-2008 11:31
#10
Dear Theo,
Please do so! I'm sure I have a lot of interesting tachinids and tabanids to look at!
If you notify me a bit before the visit I can put together some stuff!
greetings,
Posted by Zeegers on 16-08-2008 18:17
#11
So, I've seen them in real 'life' and there was a reason I didn't recognize them:
It is Plesina nigroscutellata, described only this year 30.iv by Cerretti & Tschorsnig from southern Europe. New for the 'mainland' of Greece, known from Crete.
Terrific find !
Theo
Posted by ChrisR on 16-08-2008 18:44
#12
:o wow ... new tachinids described in Europe ... very good :D
Posted by Zeegers on 17-08-2008 10:26
#13
It gets even better.
One male was different, it proves to be the real P. claripennis.
That species is new for Europe.
Theo
Posted by Gerard Pennards on 17-08-2008 10:48
#14
Sh.....t :o:o:o
If I had known these were so interesting, I could have collected several more, there were still several around playing on the rocks.
As I said before, I thought they were sepsids, and probably common ones.....
Greetings
Posted by jorgemotalmeida on 17-08-2008 11:18
#15
it is amazing discover new tachinid species in 2008 for Europe!!! :D