Thread subject: Diptera.info :: 2 Philodromus sp.

Posted by Iolaire on 06-07-2008 17:41
#1

Hi there,

These 2 spiders (Philodromus) are, in my view, two different species.
But which species?

Can they be identified to the full?

Both were found recnetly in my garden in the Netherlands (West).

Cheers!

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Posted by Smoggycb on 07-07-2008 09:56
#2

I don't think you can get an absolute id, as many Philodromus are variable and similar to related species. The first one is most likely either P. cespitum or P. aureolus (though there are other species which are also similar). I agree the second one looks different, but it's not anything I have seen before. A wild guess would be a pale P. dispar or perhaps P. rufus/albidus. Sorry I can't be more helpful.

Posted by jorgemotalmeida on 07-07-2008 11:17
#3

Philodromus are not easy. Here we have almost 20 species of Philodromus. We must check the genitalia just to be sure about the species. There are some exceptions. I second Smoggycb in this case.

Posted by Iolaire on 12-07-2008 00:16
#4

Thank you both! I'll leave them at "Philodromus sp".

Posted by Juergen Peters on 12-07-2008 00:27
#5

Hello!

The second is Philodromus dispar (female), one of the few unmistakeable species.