Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Which Tachinid?
Posted by wilde on 09-06-2008 22:55
#1
Today I photographed this fly and tried to find its name. In Theo Zeegers's Sluipvliegentabel (Jeugdbond 1992) I found the male Nemoraea pellucida that looks like my fly, but he says that it's rare. So I doubt.
The antenna colour is different and it might be another fly.
Which Tachinid is this?
If more photos are needed I could supply them. I saw 2 species of this fly in Terneuzen, Netherlands.
Edited by wilde on 09-06-2008 23:00
Posted by ChrisR on 09-06-2008 23:18
#2
Thelaira sp. but I wouldn't like to say whether it is
nigripes or
solivaga :)
Posted by wilde on 10-06-2008 11:10
#3
Thanks for the comments. My fly has more orange en less white on the abdomen. What foto-details might be decisive for the species?
Is it a male or female?
Posted by ChrisR on 10-06-2008 20:21
#4
I don't think the problem is in the photo - it is very clear. But
Thelaira spp. are variable in the features used in the keys. To identify them we need to know the width of the black abdomenal stripe and the number of large anterodorsal bristles on the middle tibia. In this case I think it is a bit intermediate between the 2 species but maybe Theo can use his experience to say which he feels it is closer to?
Posted by Zeegers on 10-06-2008 20:48
#5
Especially females can be very difficult.
Since this is a male, I have little doubt it is solivaga (see the bristles on tibia 2). Th. solivaga is only known in the Netherlands from Zeeland and Limburg province. And this one is from Zeeland....
Thanks
Theo
Posted by wilde on 10-06-2008 21:20
#6
To complete the series I made an extra photo of the middle tibia (ventral side). I collected 1 fly. Theo, if you want it for your collection I could send it to you. If so, please mail me your address.
Edited by wilde on 11-06-2008 08:49
Posted by wilde on 10-06-2008 21:21
#7
And a dorsal view:
Posted by ChrisR on 10-06-2008 22:57
#8
I think that's the ventral side of the mid-tibia, which won't show us much. The dorsal view of the abdomen does show it looks more like
solivaga than
nigripes though and I always bow to Theo's greater knowledge :)
Posted by wilde on 11-06-2008 09:26
#9
I made a crop of the middle tibia on the 1st photo (dorsal view):
Posted by ChrisR on 11-06-2008 09:58
#10
Hi Albert, yes that's a bit clearer - the bristles on the mid-tibia are all "large" so it looks like
solivaga, as Theo sugested :) You just have to be a bit careful with
Thelaira because you can get specimens that are not very clear (
nigripes with more orange or
solivaga with less - and more/less bristles) so I probably exercise more caution than I need to with this genus :)
Posted by wilde on 11-06-2008 10:19
#11
OK Chris, thanks for your explaination. This is the (front-upside) head:
Posted by wilde on 11-06-2008 10:20
#12
And here a more frontal-lateral view:
Edited by wilde on 11-06-2008 10:21
Posted by ChrisR on 11-06-2008 17:05
#13
That's nice - showing the plumose antennae and the very large eyes (that suggested
Thelaira) really well :)
Posted by Zeegers on 11-06-2008 19:40
#14
Albert
Thanks for the offer, but I'll be off next month, so it'll have to wait.
Theo