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Posted by jorgemotalmeida on 06-04-2008 16:06

Hi

I found my first piophilids this week in G?is (1.4). They have around 4 mm -5 mm length.
These were found on corpse of sheep in advanced decomposition.

Edit: not a piophilid.. :(

EDIT Title changed from "Lonchaeidae and Piophilidae" to "Lauxaniidae - Calliopum sp. (1st) and Piophilidae - Stearibia nigriceps (2nd, 3rd)"

Edited by jorgemotalmeida on 07-04-2008 14:35

Posted by Nikita Vikhrev on 06-04-2008 16:14

I'm affraid, not yet, Jorge.
There are a hell lot of carrion visitors, I think this one is Lonchaeidae.

Posted by jorgemotalmeida on 06-04-2008 16:20

hmm.. i must continue searching for them. :) Also I thought in Lonchaeidae... but I never saw a Lonchaeid (the other lonchaeids never flight as I saw this Tuesady) flying like this fly.

Posted by Nikita Vikhrev on 06-04-2008 16:34

Jorge, on second photo - Piophilidae, but I think that pinned fly is not Piophilidae.

Posted by jorgemotalmeida on 06-04-2008 16:51

aha. So I really SPOTTED Piophilidae in the same corpse. I will take in next weekend photos of possible piophilids I caught. :)

Posted by Jan Willem on 06-04-2008 18:19

Hi Jorge,

The specimen on your first foto doesn't belong to the family Lonchaeidae. The colour of the halters is all wrong.

Posted by jorgemotalmeida on 06-04-2008 18:43

Jan, if it is not Lonchaeidae (indeed it was my first thought before the Piophilidae...) what this could be? Milichiidae is not, by sure. This fly has a very dark green metallic colour. And the parafacialia and gena is even darker.

Posted by jorgemotalmeida on 06-04-2008 19:22

#10

Calliopum has striped eyes. This fly doesn't have... :(

Posted by Nikita Vikhrev on 06-04-2008 21:56

#12

If it isn't Lonchaeidae, than may be all images are Piophilidae?

Posted by Nosferatumyia on 06-04-2008 22:32

#13

Looks to be a Parapiophila sp. Guess, you are lucky as there is a few or no piophilids recorded from Iberian Peninsula.

Ask Andrei Ozerov, he is a real expert on that family.

Posted by jorgemotalmeida on 06-04-2008 22:36

#14

Thanks Nikita, Jan, St?phane and Valery. I will contact Andrey Ozerov. :D

How easy is to make mistakes in these flies. :) Next weekend I will try to take more photos so we can reach the genus, at least,

Posted by Paul Beuk on 07-04-2008 08:18

#15

jorgemotalmeida wrote:
photo of the head for the first specimen.

I thought something was off when I looked yesterday but now I have found it. This frontal picture is NOT of the first specimen given in this thread. The head picture indeed shows a piophilid but notice the absence of metallic shine on the specimen and the absence of orbital setae. Both are present in the first picture of the thread. It still seems likely to me that that picture is of a Calliopum.

Posted by Andrey Ozerov on 07-04-2008 09:38

#16

Stearibia nigriceps (Meigen) is present on second and third fotos.
My colleague A.Shatalkin examined first foto and agree with P.Beuk that it is Calliopum.

Posted by jorgemotalmeida on 07-04-2008 14:33

#17

You are right Paul. But I'm surprised to know that the fly is really a Calliopum. :) I will check my specimen in Friday.

Thanks Andrey. I will look more for more corpses... maybe crabs, too. :D

Posted by Nikita Vikhrev on 07-04-2008 17:35

#18

The specimen on your first foto doesn't belong to the family Lonchaeidae. The colour of the halters is all wrong.

Thank you Jan, I didn't know this useful information :o
Nikita

Posted by jorgemotalmeida on 07-04-2008 17:54

#19

Nice to know that the colour of halteres can discard lonchaeids in the cases it appears apparently one of it. :)

Posted by Paul Beuk on 07-04-2008 20:13

#20

However, there are other families with species that have black halteres, for example in the Agromyzidae.