Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Calliphoridae?

Posted by zcuc on 05-04-2008 11:37
#1

Hi,
I know it's long shot but it is possible to identify this Calliphoridae from Israel?

Posted by zcuc on 05-04-2008 11:38
#2

Dorsal view

Posted by Susan R Walter on 05-04-2008 22:48
#3

Lucilia sericata

Posted by zcuc on 06-04-2008 00:29
#4

wow,
I did expected that. I thought that L.sericata are green and this one is mixed with a cooper color.
Susan, After you focused me on the genus I found on "Keys to genera and species of blow flies of america north of mexico" this quote:

It can be separated from L. cuprina by the presence of 2-5 setae on the central occipital area below the inner vertical setae.


And indeed I found those marked with red arrow.

The only other resemble sp. in the paper is L. thatuna quote:
can be separated from L. thatuna by the width of the first flagellomere

But sadly I have nothing to compare to.

Posted by Susan R Walter on 06-04-2008 12:54
#5

Thanks for checking other species - I had indeed forgotten that you were in Israel and I was thinking European. I'm afraid I don't know L thatuna at all, and my experience of trying to separate Lucilia by comparison of the antennae is that it is a pretty hopeless task - certainly in photos. We can discount it though, because it is a rather rare North American species, and Whitworth also notes that it tends to have a blueish sheen rather than the coppery look of cuprina and sericata.

Your specimen is old and very faded. Metallic green flies tend to go coppery with age, and you can see that the edge of her wings are raggedy.

I would expect both sericata and cuprina to be common for you in Israel, but sericata is much more likely than cuprina in an urban environment.