Thread subject: Diptera.info :: Bibio pomonae wikipedia photo seems wrong.
Posted by rafael_carbonell on 29-11-2025 20:09
#1
Here is the link to a wikipedia photo of a couple of Bibio cf. pomonae:
https://ca.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fitxer:Bibio_cf_pomonae_fg01.JPG
Looking at wing venation, the male has r-m vein a bit longer than Rs ("anglicus type")
Looking at wing venation, the female has r-m shorter than R1 ("hortulanus type")
So is this perhaps an interspecific coupling?
Edited by rafael_carbonell on 29-11-2025 20:12
Posted by clovis on 29-11-2025 20:30
#2
I'd rather bet on
B reticulatus/varipes for this couple
Posted by rafael_carbonell on 29-11-2025 21:14
#3
Great
It would be nice somebody correcting the wikipedia entry.
It would be good if someone could correct the Wikipedia entry.
On the other hand, I suppose that this type of coupling (which I had never observed in diptera) does not produce fertile offspring.
Thanks for the comment
Posted by weia on 29-11-2025 22:16
#4
I've added a comment to the picture. Hopefully the maker of the picture improves the info.
Posted by rafael_carbonell on 29-11-2025 22:47
#5
Great, Weia, thanks
Posted by Colobo on 30-11-2025 10:01
#6
I think that it is a couple of
Bibio reticulatus. All veins coloured, costal cell light, as rest of wing membrane, pterostigma well-marked, strongly contrasting. Pilosity of male agrees also with this species.
Posted by weia on 30-11-2025 10:45
#8
Reticulatus is better than pomonae, so I changed the name on all wikipedia's... Anyone can do this by the way.
Posted by rafael_carbonell on 30-11-2025 18:26
#9
For me, it's a solved case. Considering the image provided by eklans, in this species (which is absent where I live, in southern Europe), the male has a venation with the Rs vein shorter than r-m (which I call the ‘anglicus’ type), whereas the female has the Rs vein shorter than r-m (which I call the ‘hortulanus’ type).
This contradicts what Duda's key (1930) says for the female. This characteristic is not used in other keys.
I will update that in the wiquipedia comment.